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MEDLIB-L  June 1999, Week 1

MEDLIB-L June 1999, Week 1

Subject:

FW: Apologies for the Heat!

From:

"King, Sam" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

King, Sam

Date:

Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:16:25 -0400

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>
>Well said Tom. Hope its successful - Sam King
>----------
>From:  Tom Williams[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent:  Thursday, June 03, 1999 3:53 PM
>To:    King, Sam
>Cc:    [log in to unmask]
>Subject:       Re: Apologies for the Heat!
>
>
>I didn't "get" that the Canadians or anyone were advocating basing our
>dues structure according to country of origin, but rather, on salary.
>The fact that $100 Candadian is only worth $80 U.S. (or whatever the
>exchange is) means that someone making $30,000 Canadian is making
>substantially less than $30,000 U.S.  This is where a sliding scale would
>make sense.  A Canadian member's dues would be based on their U.S.
>equivalent salary and the rest of us would be paying dues based on our
>salaries as well.
>
>Our purpose here is not to pit Canadian vs U.S. or even the higher-paid
>librarians against lower paid, but to find ways to strengthen our
>Association by doing our best to increase membership and participation.
>If high dues are contributing to falling (or at least not expanding)
>membership, then it is incumbent on us as professionals to investigate
>solutions.  Is a sliding scale a solution or even feasible?  I don't know,
>but it's worth investigating.  As a matter of fact, I believe MLA is
>looking into this issue at the present time.
>
>We have a super Association and it costs a lot of money to keep it going
>and moving forward.  Given our current circumstances, a dues increase
>right now was necessary.  Can we find a better way?  I don't know but
>it's worth a shot.
>
>Tom
>
>Thomas Williams, Director                      (334) 460-6885
>Biomedical Library and Media                   (334) 460-7638(fax)
>   Production Services
>University of South Alabama                    [log in to unmask]
>College of Medicine                            http://southmed.usouthal.edu
>BML 326B
>Mobile, Alabama 36688-0002
>
>On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, King, Sam wrote:
>
>> I read with interest your original letter and the following apology you
>> issued. I believe you are unfairly being put on the defensive here. We
>> should all be big enough to take a little "harsh reality". It is
>> interesting that some of the most outspoken critics of MLA on the list
>> appear to be not, in fact, members of MLA. Just an observation.
>>
>> There is a danger, in any organization, of basing the membership fees on
>> criteria unrelated to the services or privileges rendered. Higher
>> salaries come traditionally with higher responsibilities. It is unfair
>> to penalize those members with higher membership fees.
>>
>> Our Canadian friends are asking us to base membership fees on country of
>> origin. It is a feasible short step from there to a fee structure based
>> on race, gender or other irrelevant criteria.
>>
>> This whole issue is cause for concern.
>>
>> Sam King
>> Manchester, NH
>>
>> >----------
>> >From:  James Shedlock[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>> >Sent:  Thursday, June 03, 1999 2:49 PM
>> >To:    [log in to unmask]
>> >Subject:       MLA: Apologies for the Heat!
>> >
>> >6-3-99
>> >
>> >TO:     MEDLIB-L Readers
>> >FROM:   Jim Shedlock, Northwestern University
>> >RE:     Apologies for the heat!
>> >
>> >While I am still upset at the comments made about MLA not listening to its
>> >members, I reviewed the statements below for which an apology is
>>warranted.
>> >
>> >1.  "And don't let me see you state that NLM means nothing to Canadians.
>> >NLM is international in its perspective.  It serves the world as the
>> >greatest collection of biomedical and health information resources, and
>> >don't forget where MEDLINE comes from!"
>> >
>> >Yes, this was a stupid way of expressing the criticism from Canadians that
>> >MLA dues for lobbying support for NLM doesn't mean anything to them.  I
>> >heard these comments second hand at MLA'99.  My point is that supporting
>> >NLM is important to all the libraries of the world.  If NLM stays strong
>>in
>> >its collections and services, then all of us win.  It seems reasonable to
>> >use the portion of international dues to support lobbying efforts so NLM
>> >can continue to provide resources like MEDLINE and DOCLINE which we all
>>use
>> >no matter where we are.  I apologize for the crass wording.
>> >
>> >2.  "Probably too seriously, which is why I am fighting back!!!  I
>> >can testify to the dedication of all MLA HQ staff and their good work to
>> >address all of the membership's concerns!  Doreen, you owe "MLA" and this
>> >list an apology!"  There is no need to use the word "fight".
>> >
>> >I apologize.  However, in the context of the statement, MLA bashing
>> >deserves an apology.
>> >
>> >3.  "And what do you want the associations to do for you -- ask your boss
>>for
>> >your raise?!  Let's get real here!"
>> >
>> >The sarcasm here is not warranted.  A better way of stating the problem
>> >would be better.  I apologize, and sincerely hope that with the heat out
>>of
>> >the way, someone will start the discussion as to what associations can do
>> >to influence salaries.  I am still of the opinion that the associations'
>> >role in educating members -- to improve skills -- is the critical
>>activity.
>> >
>> >4.  "You're damn right!  I am making myself heard loud and clear: this use
>>of
>> >the public lists to bash MLA is not very smart! ... We know who you are
>>and
>> >we will continue to watch for opportunities to counterpoint your false
>> >statements when it gets out of hand!"
>> >
>> >Well, the last sentence was really stupid.  No one should imply being Big
>> >Brother.  The statement was definitely made in anger, and I do apoligize
>> >for this.  I was privately told of being oversensitive re: MLA.  Maybe so,
>> >though I don't think so.  Not in the case of MLA not responding to the
>> >specifics of the original message.
>> >
>> >I also apologize to the MLA membership if you infer, as some did, that I
>> >reflect poorly on the MLA Board and its leaders.  I find this inference
>>the
>> >hardest to understand.  My words are my own.  Right now I have no formal
>> >commitment to MLA activities, so what I say I say as a member.
>> >
>> >I believe it important that the discussion focus on the original points:
>> >bylaws changes for a Presidential single slate and for total membership
>> >vote on dues increases.  These are both very important issues.  I urge
>> >members to think about them and share your comments.
>> >
>> >I also believe it important to move MLA forward.  Tearing it apart with
>> >clever word bashing won't get us anywhere.
>> >
>> >Sincerely!
>> >
>> >
>> >________________________________________
>> >James Shedlock, AMLS, AHIP
>> >Director, Galter Health Sciences Library
>> >Northwestern University
>> >303 E. Chicago Avenue
>> >Chicago, IL  60611
>> >
>> >VOICE:  312-503-8133
>> >FAX:    312-503-1204
>> >EMAIL:  [log in to unmask]
>> >________________________________________
>> >
>>
>
>

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