Hi David, and everyone else, > Andrew, I take it this is addressed to me. Oh yes, I said something about "your average mass spec would be pushed to measure a ratio higher than 2" yonks ago. Aha! Now I have to validate this... > I'm curious how you arrived at a 45/44 ratio of 2 as the maxium enrichment most instruments can handle. Is it that the instrument can only handle twice as much ion signal or did you take the standard ratio of 0.011237 and multiply it by about 200 because the resistors on the collectors differ by 100? With a Major resistor of 5E8Ohms and a Minor resistor of 5E10Ohms, the Minor beam can read up to an FSD of 2E-10A. With s ratio of 2, the Major beam would be 1E-10A, which is pretty small. I will qualify this twice: Firstly, different mass specs behave differently at very small beam sizes, so it's possible that some machines can cope with tiny Major beams better than others. This would be assuming that you were using a reference gas close to the enrichment of your sample. Using a natural abundance reference gas could cause huge problems. At natural abundance levels, the pressure of 13CO2 is tiny compared to 12CO2, so the machine balances the gases using the 44 beam. BUT at a ratio of 2, there is only 33% 12CO2 in the gas, so if you balance using the Major beam, the actual gas pressures will be out by a huge amount, which could cause problems at the changeover valve. All Dual Inlet of course. Secondly, it is fairly easy to change the gain resistors, so with a 5E8 resistor on the minor, you would be able to keep both beams on similar scales. Oh, the Finnigan works in Volts, I think, so I'll quickly rephrase. The FSD on the Minor is 10V (1E-10A?), which would equate to a Major of 0.05V (5E-11A?) on normal resistors. With a Minor resistor identical to the Major resistor, you would be able to use a Major of up to 5V, equating to 10V on the minor. Figures are roughish, but IMO valid. > I have a Finnigan Delta S and I wanted to find these limits of measurement for both C13 and N15. I would also like to determine the maximum depletion that the instrument can measure. Same as above, only backwards. I would guess that a depletion of 1/100th of natural abundance would be possible on standard resistors, and that changing the Minor resistor to a higher value would increase precision dramatically. Hope this helps, Andrew