Isotopers, We have had some experience running natural abundance and labeled samples in our CE2500 and Delta + XLS system. Willi Brand is correct, you do not need two CF-IRMS's, the "memory is in the EA. If you have the halogen lights on in the source of the Delta, the source stays clean. After running the labeled N-15 samples our 30 backgrounds were through the roof. To get them back down again we had to change out the entire insides of the EA including the combustion and reduction tubes, water trap, and the GC column. We have one GC column for labeled samples and one for natural abundance, but we don't run labeled samples anymore for other reasons, software. The real problem with the labeled samples was that the Isodat software seemed to have errors in calculating the Atom %N. We ran the same samples on a VG system at LLL that was "optimized" for labeled samples and got different Atom %N results. The F MAT software seems to calculate too high a value compared to the Livermore results. But then there are several problems with the Isodat software including the blank correction, which seems to work sometime and other times goes Viking. We wind up doing all the corrections by hand offline. Can anyone explain these types of software calculation problems? Bill ---------------------------------------------------------- Dr. William J. Showers Professor Director, Stable Isotope Lab Director, RiverNet Program Dept. of Marine, Earth, & Atm Sciences 1125 Jordan Hall North Carolina State University Raleigh, NC 27695-8208 (919) 515-7143 - voice (919) 915-1498 - cell (919) 515-7802 - fax [log in to unmask] - email Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there.