Karen,
     An interesting question, and not one most isotope geochemists are
used to dealing with.  In my opinion, I would not take any chance of using
MS-222.  Why not simply use CO2?  It can be bubbled into solution from
a tank or, perhaps more crudely, alka seltzer does a wonderful job.  I've
put down fish about 3 inches long myself by gradually dropping in about
6-8 alka seltzer tablets into a liter or 2 of water (the smaller the volume the
fewer tablets needed).  CO2 is supposed to have an anesthetizing affect,
which I can't attest to.  But I can say that the fish go down within a few
minutes and usually with very little struggling.  I believe that CO2 is an
accepted humane way for euthanizing fish.  Use of CO2 would have absolutely
no isotope effects on tissue samples
Best of luck,
Nathaniel Ostrom


At 11:58 AM 3/14/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Hello, everyone.

Has anyone out there used MS-222 (C9H11O2N + CH3SO3H) to euthanise fish
before taking tissue samples for isotope analysis?  The Animal Care and
Use Committee at my university wants me to use this method instead of
freezing my tiny fish on dry ice.

I'd just as soon use the least traumatic method possible for the little
guys, of course, but I haven't seen any references to using MS-222 for
euthanasia in the SIA literature.

If you've used this stuff with great success, *or* know for sure that its
use would mess up the isotope ratios (which I suspect), would you please
let me know ASAP so that I can satisfy the powers that be?

Thanks for your help!

     Karen Gaines.

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