Forgive my ignorance...is this legal? You will be profiting on items that have copyrights elsewhere. Perhaps individuals have not responded for this reason. andy --- Pier de Groot <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Dear all, > > This is my repeated request to get your opinion if there is need for a > stable isotope reference databank service. Since I collected quite a large > number of references considering stable isotopes, including analytical and > applied papers in a wide diversity of disciplines over the years, I was > thinking if I can make this available to the stable isotope community. > Unfortunately I have ot ask some contribution in reverse for such a service, > because I did much work and have to make investment (costs) to set this up, > if aty all. This strongly depends on the interest shown by you... i.e the > stable isotope community. > > My first inquiry did not generate much reactions (was bad timing for the > European side � just before a holiday/long weekend), although most were > showing a positive opinion and a few a negative one � fair enough, everybody > her/his own ideas of course. > One argument given was that references can be obtained for free... Of course > right, but I realized that very much myself (how did I get this collection > of refs anyway, bnot by paying for a databank but by searching libraries and > internet myself in a longer time period, with for me an obvious reason to do > this). > I dare to state that references can be obtained, but such a search wil ltake > by far more time and it will be difficult to get a reference list from such > a search that is as complete as from my database - and yes, there will be > exceptions as there are usually. > > I repeat my objections for such a database service (at start there will be > over 10,000 refs available and I will take care to let it grow by adding > refs regularly; I will upgrade the database for as many magazines I can if > this will be set-up and running): > > * possibility to scroll through complete list of references > * to search by keywords for selecting specific items, authors, years, > isotopes/elements/compounds, etc. etc. > * to give a list of authors with linking to/listing of all the references > given for this author > * including �doi� code with direct linking to the paper (only able to access > if subscription to the magazine is existing for the person opening the link > � password or registration will be demanded in most cases � if free access, > this can be linked directly, of course) > * listing of magazines included in the database (including the used �short > name� in the database) and with link to the web-site of the magazine, if > available/existing > > References will be structured: > author(s) - year � title � magazine, volume(issue), pages and doi code; > eventually also a list of keywords can be included (where I have them � at > least for about half the database I have included!) > (for book chapters, books or other type of works similar styles). > > My question is if enough interest exist for such a database access on > internet by subscription (yearly renewable charge; the more interested > persons the lower such a subscription can be...; mind that I have to make > costs for server etc.). I think reduction for students will be good too > (after showing formal proof of studentship..). Option of institutional > and/or library subscription is seriously considered. > Also I like to hear suggestions and comments, if there are volunteers for > such... > Do not hesitate to include what you are eventually willing to spent for such > a subscription, if at all. > If this turns out to be a good idea I am prepared to invest in this (server > space, URL registration, assistence for IT part, payment regulation, etc. > etc. - note that things are not for free for me too � I informed myself > already a bit if affordable - also depends on size of interest for this!). > > Please, react directly to me personally at: > [log in to unmask] > DO NOT REACT TO THE LIST PLEASE! > And tell me what you think. The more reactions I get the better. > I look forward for your reactions. > > Best wishes, > Pier. > **************************************************************** > Delta Isotopes Consultancy > > Dr. Pier A. de Groot > Pastoor Moorkensstraat 16 > 2400 Mol - Achterbos > Belgium > Tel. +32 (0)14 326 205 > e-mail: [log in to unmask] or [log in to unmask] > > Associate editor for stable isotopes of eEarth on-line magazine > http://www.electronic-earth.net > > Visit my WEB-site about my �Handbook of Stable Isotope Analytical > Techniques�, with a link to the Elsevier web site on the handbook (marked: > �Order Now�): > http://users.pandora.be/handbook/index.html > last update: August 15, 2005 > Volume I is now available. Volume II is expected to be available second half > of 2006. > > **************************************************************** > In a World Without Walls or Fences, > Who Needs Gates, or Windows? > > **************************************************************** > > > > > Andrew Schauer Stable Isotope Ratio Facility for Environmental Research Department of Biology University of Utah 257 S. 1400 E. Salt Lake City,UT 84112 USA [log in to unmask] 801.581.8917