I too once encountered a precision problem - it's been a while, but I think it was either in the exp() or log() function. I pretty much nailed it down to that - when I put my snippet of code into a Pascal file it worked without fault, but in Excel/Visual Basic it just produced crap. Peter On Tuesday 06 March 2007 10:26, Tom Brenna wrote: > Hello Tom, > > The statisticians in my unit routinely warn us about Excel calculations, > and this goes beyond statistics even to graphics. They cite several > articles showing that Excel has problems, among which are: > > (1) > <http://www.stat.uni-muenchen.de/%7Eknuesel/elv/excelxp.pdf>http://www.stat >.uni-muenchen.de/~knuesel/elv/excelxp.pdf > > (2) D. McCullough B.; Wilson B. On the accuracy of statistical procedures > in Microsoft Excel 2000 and Excel XP. > <http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/els/01679473;jsessionid=3nn4j0onoc27 >1.victoria>Computational Statistics and Data Analysis, Volume 40, Number 4, > 28 October 2002, pp. 713-721(9). > > (3) > <http://gcrc.ucsd.edu/biostatistics/Excel.pdf>http://gcrc.ucsd.edu/biostati >stics/Excel.pdf > > > This being said, I use Excel all the time for calculations and for graphs, > and suppose I will eventually be sorry. > > Tom Brenna > > At 10:56 AM 3/3/2007, you wrote: > >Hello All, > >We've been asked recently to provide results for a project in atom percent > >instead of the usual delta per mil notation. It took a little while to > >find the equations for this, so I decided to add one more place online > >where this could be done. What I found in the process is that if I convert > >delta per mil to atom percent using Excel, I get one result. If I use my > >old TI-30, I get a slightly different result. If I use php > >(http://localhost/uasil/black/isotopes/delta_to_atom_percent.php), I get > >the same result as with the TI-30. The results of the calculator and php > >are different from what I get with Excel starting with the 3rd to 5th > >decimal place, depending on the standard and isotope used. This degree of > >precision is normally adequate, but I'd expect better; particularly if I'm > >making a number of calculations. I'm assuming all three tools have > >adequate floating point precision to produce similar results for more than > >just a couple of decimal places. > >Why would there be differences after the 2nd decimal place with only a few > >calculations (in the case of delta per mil to atom percent)? I'm a little > >curious (concerned) as we use Excel daily for much more complicated > >calculations. > >Thanks, > >-Tom > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >University of Arkansas Stable Isotope Laboratory > >http://www.uark.edu/ua/isotope/ -- ============================================================ Dr Peter Franz National Institute for Water and Atmospheric Research (NIWA) 301 Evans Bay Pde Private Bag 14901 Kilbirnie Wellington New Zealand Ph : ++64-(0)4-386-0506 Fax: ++64-(0)4-386-2153 Mobile: ++64-(0)211-109304 Email: [log in to unmask] Website: www.niwa.co.nz ============================================================