Anyone with questions on this subject should email Mabika Goma at AOE. He will be very happy to answer your questions. - General state assessments of ELA, Math, and Science, please contact Mabika Goma ([log in to unmask]). On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 3:28 PM Rob Stalling < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Greetings all - > > It's been a while, so figured I'd ask....Anyone hear of any updates > regarding the Speech-to-Text for VTCAT-TestNav on a chromebook? > > -- > Rob Stalling > IT Specialist > Barre Unified Union School District > > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 10:50 AM Ryan Dougher <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> Well, their sys requirements >> <https://support.assessment.pearson.com/TN/testnav-system-requirements-18613791.html> >> page shows support for Chrome OS 102-106. >> >> All I've seen publicly from the AOE is their email *"November 2022 >> Assessment News"* which states the following: >> >> *"SUs can review the TestNav8 Online Support >> <https://support.assessment.pearson.com/TN/testnav-8-online-support-16908292.html> >> page to find technical specifications and system requirements >> <https://support.assessment.pearson.com/TN/testnav-system-requirements-18613791.html> >> for the new general assessment. The test delivery app can also be >> downloaded from this page. Please note that Vermont will not be using the >> ProctorCache System. This activity is not required at this time, but please >> use this information as it is helpful. "* >> >> Neither of those links the AOE gave us say anything about *STT support* >> on the *Chrome OS TestNav app*. >> >> That's the issue. TestNav obviously supports Chrome OS. But we're still >> stuck with old hardware support just to provide STT accommodations for some >> of our students...which we've had to do for years. >> >> *Ryan Dougher* >> Sr. Systems & Network Admin >> Information Technology Services >> <https://www.wsesu.net/departments/it-services> >> Windsor Southeast Supervisory Union <http://wsesu.net/> >> 127 State Street, Windsor, VT 05089 >> Email <[log in to unmask]> | 802.674.8202 >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 10:40 AM Keith Puffer <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >>> IF that is the case, should we discuss locking in Chrome OS versions? >>> (Limiting to v 102) >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 10:28 AM Kate Owen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> So, ummm, I don't want a Governor will sue me or anything, but I have >>>> *very* good reason to believe that Vermont's Cognia help site will be >>>> largely a clone of this one for the State of New Mexico that is found at >>>> https://newmexico.onlinehelp.cognia.org/ >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022, 9:54 AM Ryan Dougher <[log in to unmask]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In Feb 2020, Pearson announced >>>>> <https://support.assessment.pearson.com/TN/blog/2020/02/testnav-extension-support-to-bridge-the-accessibility-gap-for-high-stakes-testing> >>>>> they were going to begin piloting the use of "extensions" within their >>>>> TestNav app to allow for assistive technology such as speech-to-text: *"Pearson >>>>> plans to launch Speech-To-Text and Word Prediction extensions for TestNav >>>>> on Mac, Windows, and Chrome OS by the fall of 2020"* >>>>> >>>>> That quote specifically mentions these "extensions" would be available >>>>> for Chrome OS. Which is what we need. >>>>> >>>>> Fast forward two years, I cannot find any documentation that implies >>>>> that the "Co:Writer" extension (which is used for STT) and the like are >>>>> available on the Chrome OS version of TestNav. All I've been able to find >>>>> is this TestNAV support PDF from Illinois Assessment of Readiness >>>>> <https://il.mypearsonsupport.com/resources/training-resources/Assistive%20Technology%20Guidelines.pdf> >>>>> which the second to last page (Appendix A) implies the extensions are >>>>> available for the TestNAV "Desktop" apps and MacOS screenshots of >>>>> "Co:Writer", etc. This is the screenshot I showed in the original email for >>>>> this thread. >>>>> >>>>> I've yet to find evidence online that these extensions are indeed >>>>> available for TestNAV on Chrome OS, as was apparently stated by Pearson in >>>>> Feb 2020. >>>>> >>>>> *Ryan Dougher* >>>>> Sr. Systems & Network Admin >>>>> Information Technology Services >>>>> <https://www.wsesu.net/departments/it-services> >>>>> Windsor Southeast Supervisory Union <http://wsesu.net/> >>>>> 127 State Street, Windsor, VT 05089 >>>>> Email <[log in to unmask]> | 802.674.8202 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 9:45 AM Brian Pena <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> There has got to be someone from the State in this group that can >>>>>> help us get an answer. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 9:32 AM Ryan Dougher <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, pretty frustrating that the AOE knew this was a request (STT >>>>>>> on Chromebooks) and they were heading in that direction with Smarter >>>>>>> Balance....then they went with a completely different product without any >>>>>>> further input from any of us (at least not that I saw). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Ryan Dougher* >>>>>>> Sr. Systems & Network Admin >>>>>>> Information Technology Services >>>>>>> <https://www.wsesu.net/departments/it-services> >>>>>>> Windsor Southeast Supervisory Union <http://wsesu.net/> >>>>>>> 127 State Street, Windsor, VT 05089 >>>>>>> Email <[log in to unmask]> | 802.674.8202 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 9:03 AM Mark Kline <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Ryan, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At this time we're planning to keep some older Macs around for this >>>>>>>> purpose. Based on the age of the devices they should work OK for 2-3 years, >>>>>>>> but how things look down the road is hard to say. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Unfortunately, my understanding is that Cognia is an entity within >>>>>>>> the massive Pearson monopoly. If the AOE didn't require STT capability in >>>>>>>> the contract I don't see Pearson making an effort. I hope that I'm wrong. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> FWIW, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> /\/\ ark >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Mark Kline* >>>>>>>> *Director of Technology* >>>>>>>> *Washington Central UUSD* >>>>>>>> *Montpelier, VT* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 9:05 AM Ryan Dougher < >>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So the state is going with Cognia to replace SBAC. I've looked >>>>>>>>> into all the documentation with their TestNav app and I'm not seeing that >>>>>>>>> STT is available for the Chromebook kiosk app, which is concerning. All of >>>>>>>>> the screenshots for STT show MacOS and the documentation appears to >>>>>>>>> emphasize STT being available for the TestNav "Desktop" app. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We're a 1 to 1 Chromebook SU. It's been a pain for years to keep >>>>>>>>> some older Macbooks limping along to be able to provide the STT >>>>>>>>> accommodation for some of our students. We were told by the AOE that >>>>>>>>> Smarter Balance *could* provide STT for their Chromebook kiosk app, but it >>>>>>>>> was going to cost an additional licensing fee. The AOE said they were going >>>>>>>>> to try to work this into the new budget when they renewed with Smarter >>>>>>>>> Balance. Unfortunately it looks like that never happened and now they're >>>>>>>>> going with Cognia. 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