At 12:38 PM 3/24/96 +0000, Kolodny wroe: : "...but an opal is an opal" Agreed, but there is the question of surface area. Diatomite has one of the highest surface areas of anything known. Most of the OH and water is probably on the surfaces and can be removed via the stepwise fluorination method without affecting the tetrahedral oxygen very much.. In the case of milky opal or precious opal the surface area is nothing special. Here, the hydrous components are buried within the structure and it is not clear how effective the method is. One thing to remember in using the stepwise fluorination method is to NOT substitute bromine pentafluoride for fluorine gas. Flourine appears to yield the right delta-value on quartz or opal as long as you get more than about 5% yield (a miracle!). With bromine pentafluoride, a 95% or better yield is required or your number can be several per mil off. Cheers, Paul Knauth Department of Geology Arizona State University Box 871404 Tempe, Arizona 85287-1404 (602) 965-2867 office (602) 831-1469 home (602) 965-8102 fax