Dear GJ, You can have significant enrichment of 13C through kinetic effects related to the rapid freezing of bicarbonate water. We measured values up to +17 permil in white powders from caves in the Yukon, and through experiments found a kinetic fractionation factor for CaCO3-CO2 of 1.032 (Clark and Lauriol, Chemical Geology/Isotope Geoscience Section, 1992, v102: 217-228). However, this doesn't get you into the range that you report. The other way is through a Rayleigh reaction, usually associated with methanogenesis by CO2 reduction. This was suspected in some deep groundwater samples we measured with 13C-DIC values of +30 to +32 permil. I'd like to learn more about the context for your samples. Regards, Ian Clark Geology University of Ottawa 613-562-5838 --