Dear Steve, If this helps - I can only agree with Paul Dennis's comments. We use similar reaction vessels and Louwers-Hapert stopcocks with a very sparing amount of Apiezon grease and find no problems whatsoever. Normally we react for 6hours after evacuating the vessels and acid overnight. Best wishes Paul On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 13:19:11 -0500 Steve Nelson wrote: > From: Steve Nelson <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 13:19:11 -0500 > Subject: high residual gas pressure > To: [log in to unmask] > > Dear Listmembers, > > Once again I hope to enlist your help. I have built a conventional > carbonate line and all seems to be working well now except one item--the > reaction vessels--which seem to contain high residual gas pressures [about > 40 microns upon expansion into the manifold]. The pressures are high > enough that the gas transfer rates are slow. It takes 7-8 minutes to > freeze down 100 micromoles of CO2 and clearly that is too long. This is > after rough pumping overnight on the acid/sample and then pumping for at > least a couple of hours with the diffusion pump and a cold trap before > reaction. I have been letting samples react overnight. Once the CO2 is > trapped and the residual gas is pumped away, the CO2 will freeze again very > rapidly if I re-expand it. > > My two legged reaction vessel design was copied from a colleage. > The upper half contains the teflon/o-ring stopcock and the lower half > contains the two legs for reagent and sample. They are joined with a ACE > o-ring connection and a clamp rather than a ground glass fitting. > > I ran blank vessels to determine whether the residual gas was > related to the reagent or the reaction. I rough pumped on the vessels > overnight and then with the diffusion pump and a cold trap, then I closed > the stopcocks. I left the vessels on the manifold but let them sit > overnight [assuming the problem is not in the stopcocks]. I also torched > the bottom of the vessels before closing the stopcocks. Overnight a > residual pressure of about 40 microns resulted. Hence, the source of the > residual gas appears to be the reaction vessel itself. > > It seems to me that if the problem were leakage, that it would be > unlikely that all of the vessels would produce such similar residual > pressures or leak the same amount. Any ideas as to the cause or a possible > solution would be appreciated. I've struggled with this for quite some > time now. > > ******************************** > Steve Nelson > Dept. of Geology > 673 WIDB > Brigham Young University > Provo. Utah 84602 > > voice: 1-801-378-8688 > FAX: 1-801-378-8143 > > "INTEL INSIDE" is a warning label > ********************************* Paul Kennedy Stable Isotope Laboratory Marine Science Laboratories University of Wales Menai Bridge Gwynedd LL59 5EY U.K. email [log in to unmask] Tel ++ 44 (0)1248 351151 exn 2847 Fax ++ 44 (0)1248 716367