Dear All, ...yes, i agree strongly w/Atilla & Mike Palin, although i initially wanted to unsubscribe. Yes, please lighten up, etc.The responses to Jim O'Neil's posting have been as interesting and as irritating as the posting itself, in the same 'witness-to-an-auto-accident' sort of way. Be honest, upon reading the original posting, which of you thought "...there but for the grace of (insert name of yer fave Supreme Diety here) go I." I know i did. So, Jim, better luck w/your 'send' button next time & let's all move on. Which of you found the ensuing discussion interesting in spite of it all? For me it was sorta like being forced to watch Jenny Jones or Geraldo & then finding myself up there on stage. I sincerely hope that Iain & the others rejoin us at some point. At various times i have found their input to be uuseful & insightful. I think Mike Palin has brought up several fascinating scientific & sociological issues which i know would be much more interesting to discuss over a beverage or 3 than over a listserver. Perhaps if we find ourselves (i.e. subscribers) together at a conference, we should make a point to get together & let the fur fly. Yours in Science & Humanity, Dave Wayne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Wayne Mass Spectrometry Section CST-8, MSG-740 Los Alamos National Laboratory Los Alamos, NM USA 87545 Phone: 505-665-5933 <OR> 505-667-9868 FAX: 505-665-4737 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~