Hi Torsten, For oxygen isotope analysis of ul-scale water sample, you could also see the paper by W. Yang, H.R. Krouse and R.J. Spencer (1996), Chemical Geology (Isotope Geoscience Section), v. 130, p.139-145. At 08:12 AM 10/29/97 -0500, you wrote: >>Dear Listmembers, >> >>I am planning on an oxygen extraction line for small water samples >>(1-10mg). The liberated oxygen shall be analysed on an isotope ratio >>mass spectrometer for 18-O, 17-O and 16-O. So far, I’ve only found the >>papers by O’Neil & Epstein (1966) and Clayton & Mayeda (1983) related >>to milligram quantities of water and 17-O, respectively. Now, I wonder >>if the isogeochem pool can help me with the following questions: >> >>1.) Many laser ablation lines use fluorine gas instead of BrF5 for >>oxygen extraction on minerals. How suitable is fluorine gas for water >>samples? What is the minimum temperature required in order to avoid >>the production of any oxy-halogen compounds? >> >>2.) After the recent lively discussion on Kel-F, I wonder if I can use >>it for reaction vessels. I wouldn’t like to use Ni or stainless steel >>since metal fluoride is quite hygroscopic. Does Kel-F stand >>temperatures of up to 200°C for 10-20 minutes? >> >>3.) Who supplies Kel-F in Europe? >> >>4.) In case of fluorine gas: Does anybody know if N2 and F2 combine to >>NF3 at 100-200°C? In other words, do I need to purify the fluorine gas >>first? >> >>5.) Who can recommend me a source for molecular sieves suitable oxygen >>gas purification? >> >>Any comments, further references, ideas, etc. are very much >>appreciated! >> >> >>Thorsten >> >> >>Thorsten Agemar >>Institut fuer Umweltphysik >>Universitaet Heidelberg >>INF 366 >>D-69120 Heidelberg >>Germany >> >>+49 (0) 6221 54 6334 >>+49 (0) 6221 54 6405 (FAX) >>[log in to unmask] > >Thorsten: We still do water fluorination on few-milligram samples >(for another reference, see Matsuhisa et al. GCA 42,173,1978). We use BrF5 >(why would you want to use fluorine?) in a nickel reaction vessel. Heating >to about 200degrees C is necessary to decompose metastable products, such >as ozone and peroxides formed in the explosive reaction. > If NF3 were produced, it can be recognized in the mass spectrometer >by its fragment at mass 52 (NF2+). We purify oxygen before mass analysis >using 13X molecular sieve (30/60 mesh, Anasorb), to remove any NF3 or CF4. > Bob Clayton >