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You may have gotten lucky, or you may just have wood skis with a good solid metal plate in them. Myself and many others have ripped the stock SL from skis. If you ski with the guides in the first position, it isnt as much of a problem, but with them in the rear position and a stiff boot it levers the back holes out pretty bad. It was enough to pretty much hollow out my foam core Olins and led to their breakage. The main problem is that it's a one-stage mount, so the screws are really long and there's more leverage yanking them back and forth until it finally fails. If you could mount them without the lifter, it probably would be fine, but the lip on the back prevents that. But that's not my only gripe with them. I also ripped the guides out, and replacing the flathead screws that hold them in was a major PITA. I've found that adjusting cable length in anything but ideal conditions can be impossible (the plastic gear gets chewed really easily), and the shae of the toe bar cuts my boots. Bottom line, I'm done with the Superloop. Jerm On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Jim Crowley wrote: > Jerm warned Leigh: > > > 3 )If you get superloops, try to get a G3 lifter for them. The stock > > yellow lifter they come with will break your skis. > > Jerm, can you explain how that will happen? > > I've skied Superloops with the stock yellow lifter for many seasons and > they haven't broken my skis. I'm a fairly heavy person and ski rather > aggressively in bumps, crud, etc. > > Mind you, I have broken many SL parts, including the top bar weld on the > older version of the SL, and two cables (supposedly "unbreakable" > according to Rainey's website). I just cannot envision hos the stock > yellow lifter will cause my skis any harm. > > Jim > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > SkiVt-L is brought to you by the University of Vermont. > > To unsubscribe, visit http://list.uvm.edu/archives/skivt-l.html > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SkiVt-L is brought to you by the University of Vermont. To unsubscribe, visit http://list.uvm.edu/archives/skivt-l.html