Sure there is. But I'll try to purge myself of my preconceptions so we could discuss this adults. Let's weigh the cost in life (and quality of life) of preserving Iraq's current regime (I'll even throw in 6 more months of inspections at no extra charge) with going to war to uproot the regime. Sadly, we run a risk of loss of innocent civilians. I cannot deny this expectation is valid because it has happened before in the Gulf War. But other things have happened before. Hussein has invaded an adjacent country. Hussein has in his custody weapons of mass destruction he has either omitted from his original declaration, minimized or denied outright in future statements. I believe he said "there are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq." The possession of them violates a 12-year UN agreement and the denial speaks volumes about the character of the leader and raises suspicions. And then there are the routine or what some of you may call the "benign" atrocities in Iraq, the ones no one wants to discuss, the ones Hussein perpetrates upon his own people. Now I'll agree that sanctions have also cost lives and reduced quality of life, but these would also come to an end after a war. So clearly I see a need for a regime change, since that is the only way to insure this country will not have weapons of mass destruction. We have attempted to acheive disarmament politically and diplomatically. No deal. In the process we learned given the deception and the atrocities mentioned that a regime change is necessary to create a zone of reassurance with respect to disarmament. There have been attempts to achieve a regime change, a peaceful exile for Hussein, without success. So war is the only option, regrettably. As for compliance with weapons inspections? Powell said it most succinctly, "Concessions are not compliance." There is reason to believe that he is rebuilding his weapons as fast as he is destroying them. He destroys them late (he's had 12 years by one interpretation and 6 months by another) and at a snail's pace. And he destroys just enough to divide the international community. No, I'm sorry. "The People" would be better served by this war than by no war. J. Wyatt --- Carrol Cox <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > The list title is not just "Science," it also > includes "for the people," > which mandates using the list for what currently is > the most flagrant > attack on the people of the world, u.s. foreign > policy as a whole. > > Being for the people and for the war is utterly > incoherent. There should > be no need to debate that on a progressive list. > > Carrol Cox > > > "J. Wyatt Ehrenfels" wrote: > > > > I for one support the war. This trend of > > co-opting discussion groups for political purposes > of > > questionable relevance to the group is getting old > > fast. > > > > J. Wyatt > > http://www.fireflySun.com/news.html > > > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/