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As a rough gauge: if the slope is 45 degrees, and you are standing straight
up, and you are approx 6 feet tall; when you reach straight out
horizontially towards the up hill, the slope is about 1 1/2 feet away from
your finger tips. This assumes the slope is constant and not moguled, and
you really are standing straight up. - S.G Cole

----- Original Message -----
From: Dana Dorsett <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [SKIVT-L] Bug Attack - Great Gulf / Mt. Washington Tuesday,
5/20/03


> Denis Bogan [[log in to unmask]] writes:
>
> >>From:         Jim Crowley <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject:      Re: Bug Attack - Great Gulf / Mt. Washington Tuesday,
> >5/20/03
> >
> >> On Sunday, I figured that we were standing at the top a good 10 feet
> >below where we stood last year on Memorial Day weekend. I would guess
> that
> >the maximum pitch on the headwall on Sunday was well below 40 degrees,
> >probably around 35- 37 degrees. Last year it was probably closer to 40
> >degrees. I could be wrong though, as I didn't have an inclinometer, but
> I
> >am a geologist so I'm used to measuring and guessing the inclination of
> >planes. <
> >
> >Well, I admit to being easily scared by exposure.  Also I didn't carry
> an
> >inclinometer so I relied on ability to judge a 45/45/90 triangle, which
> is
> >pretty easy actually.  Still, this steady critical degradation of that
> >slope seems wrong to me.  I have skied a lot of stuff that is reliably
> >measured at around 40 and this definitely seemed steeper to me for the
> >first 10 turns.
>
> I _did_ carry an inclinometer, and I did measure the slope on one of the
> other snow bit dropping in to the gulf S of the Airplane Gully at just
> about 45 degrees with clearly steeper stuff 20' below me.  I didn't
> bother measuring the Airplane Gully proper, but it's max pitch clearly
> didn't exceed 45 (unless you chose the right mogul face :-) ), but the
> average sustained pitch for the top 1/3 or so seemed closer to 40 than
> 35.
>
> I usually underestimate pitch in good conditions, overestimate in bad,
> and conditions for skiing steeps were so perfect (not to sloppy, not too
> firm), if I'm guesstimating 40 it's probably 40+. Of course, sometimes I
> try to compensate my guesstimates for conditions, but probably not too
> much this time since I had indeed measured something within an hour of
> dropping in. It's slightly steeper than the steepest pitch in Hillmans,
> with a steeper average for the first ~500' or so. It is sure to be a
> _lot_ steeper on the cornice in high snowfall years.
>
> I'll be sure to measure it next time.  Goodman claims a max pitch of 44,
> which seems somewhat high compared to what I skied, but he may have been
> measuring the cornice.  Whatever- it was steep enough and narrow enough
> to make hop-turns both necessary and easy, but not gut-check scary (in
> good conditions, at least.) At the bend where it turns north it
> moderated very quickly to sub-30.  It's a fun run- my new-favorite White
> Mountains shot (edging out the N branch of the middle gully in the Gulf
> of Slides, which is a few hundred vertical of sweet ~35-ish degree turns
> in the scrub spruce.)
>
> dana
>
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