Ed, Ulta Key is one that I have seen, it does not have the arcade-style typing games that Mavis offers, however, it seems to work OK. So that you know, we are having issues with the Mavis 15 network version of Mavis. We have 500 students using Mavis and the teacher management component is very slow due to the number of students in the system (frustrating as it is a network program) and Mavis now has one long list of students when logging in vs. choosing a class and then selecting a name (again, frustrating with 500 students) ... this may become problematic as any student can go in as another student. I have contacted Riverdeep who advise that this is the nature of the program. Regards, Greg ********************************************** "Home is where you hang your @" Greg Thweatt Information Technology Trainer Shelburne Community School Shelburne, Vermont [log in to unmask] >>> [log in to unmask] 9/15/2003 9:30:50 AM >>> Advice on typing tutors. Last June, I was unable to take advantage of a discount offer for 25% off of Mavis Beacon. I was assured by the sales rep. that the offer would be good after the fiscal year began in July. It was not, but since I was led to the understanding that the offer would be good in July by their sales person, Riverdeep decided to extend the discount for me. The following is a confirmation email message I received from Riverdeep. Edward Great news! Talking with my manager we notice we still had the promo code in the system for 25% of Mavis Beacon upgrade. In order to receive the discount you must do these two things: 1. Proof of purchase of current Mavis Beacon program. For example a copy of the invoice, packing list .... 2. Note this promo code on the PO : MBPO30325A Upon getting approval and sending them a purchase order with the proof of purchase of my original network version (not compatible with XP), I was told that higher-ups in the company had decided that Riverdeep would not honor this offer. I do not have the $699 in my budget and so I am looking for a different typing tutor. Any suggestions on another product that would be good for 3rd through 8th grade students? Thanks, Ed Edward Bianchi Technology Educator Charlotte Central School 408 Hinesburg Road Charlotte, VT 05445 802-425-2771 ext. 155 Fax 802-425-2122 [log in to unmask]