FYI, Clare & John, I purged students and grad student instructors from the NR103/104/105 listserv. And then there were three. Whenever one of you wants, you can notify the listserv ombudsman that I should no longer be an owner and can be removed. There's no hurry, of course. Kristian -- Kristian Omland Postdoctoral Research Associate Vermont Cooperative Fish & Wildlife Research Unit Rubenstein School of Environment & Natural Resources University of Vermont Burlington VT 05405 voice: (802)656-2496 fax: (802)656-8683 web page: http://www.uvm.edu/~komland