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>Except for, maybe, my own safety and security, and those of my kids.<

You honestly believe that the world is safer now? That's scary. After Bush
is re-elected and institutes a new draft will you be sure to send your kids
down from Canada as volunteers?

>The Roman Empire fell....<

What a misunderstanding of history your analysis of this is.

>How dare those Americans soldiers should have tried to scare
some of those captured terrorist assassins into talking or dissuading other
terrorists for the mere goal of saving a few more western lives over the
long haul.<

Let's see we invaded Iraq because.....oh wait never mind let's go to the
latest reason which is something about ending a brutal dictator's reign of
torture and bringing freedom, democracy and human rights to the Iraqi
people. Don't you find it the slightest bit ironic that we are now TORTURING
prisoners in the very same prison that Sadaam used?

I wonder how our soldiers and the other Americans in Iraq feel knowing that
all of them are potential hostages. I wonder what kind of treatment they can
expect now.

>In another vein, how's the new Trade Center construction going?<

It's going fine despite the fact that Bush never actually sent the money he
said he was going to send to aid us and he still hasn't delivered on the
promised funds for any of the local agencies that will actually be
responsible for preventing and responding to another attack.

The good news is that from the Condi hearings and the other information now
available, I can now rest easy in the knowledge that when a non "historical"
PDB (ie: one that says "Bin LAden determined to attack US") arrives on the
Presidents desk with a title such as "Terrorists to attack Empire State
Building at 2:05PM on May 9" that we might have a chance to stop it.

What's amazing is that the guy hasn't been impeached.



-----Original Message-----
From: Vermont Skiing Discussion and Snow Reports
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Leigh Daboll
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 7:04 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [SKIVT-L] <No subject given>


Was gonna stay silent, but what he said...

'Course, my views don't count much because I'm just another right wing
wacko, eh?

And I'm not even American, only a fellow westerner.

So I don't really have much to lose.

Except for, maybe, my own safety and security, and those of my kids.

And eventually, maybe my rights to a free western press.

Oh, I forgot.  Political correctness already killed that.

Which right - by the way, CBS - came coupled with an equal responsibility
beyond your right to report.

The Roman Empire fell to the barbarian hordes not because it was less
powerful or less advanced or less right.

Nope.  It fell because it's citizens had become "smart".

Idly smart.

See, they'd moved beyond just believing in the vision that they were right,
and to do what they had to do to protect it.  That's dirty work.

Better to sit and debate and, above all, to try to "understand it". That's
civilized.

So instead, they began to endlessly debate the pros and cons of the various
assaults on their way of life and how they should, or should not, respond.

Much of the time - I'm certain - whilst lounging around in a comfortable and
socially progressive Roman bath.

You're right.  How dare those Americans soldiers should have tried to scare
some of those captured terrorist assassins into talking or dissuading other
terrorists for the mere goal of saving a few more western lives over the
long haul.

If this works, CBS & Dems, (and the rest of the liberal west), welcome to
the new dark ages.

On the brighter side, I'm sure we can negotiate quite well with those
reasonable chaps on the other side once this present imperialist silliness
subsides and the Dems are in power.

'Cause, it was all our fault anyway, all us imperialist, capitalist western
ba**ards, right?

In another vein, how's the new Trade Center construction going?

You know, the one that you're rebuilding because..how'd you put it...because
George W and his cronies didn't take strong enough measures to protect it
against a terrorist attack.

Right, that one.

Back to reality TV,
Leigh

----- Original Message -----
From: "steve kijak" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [SKIVT-L] <No subject given>


> >Date:    Fri, 7 May 2004 12:22:09 -0700
> >From:    Matthew Kulas <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject: <No subject given>
> >
> >so I may as well open the List's silly-season with:
> >
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/07/opion/07FRI1.html
> >
> >Nmad right!
> >
> >Let our quagmire begin.
> >
> >--Matt K.
>
> Wow. Once again you Democrats have shown you are much
> smarter and intelligent than Republicans. Did you
> dance in the street and hand out candy?
>
> You knew something was up in January when the Army
> announced it was investigating abuses in the prison.
>
> Finally someone with access to the chain of evidence
> was able to leak the photos.
>
> 60 minutes figured that handled correctly this would
> destroy the Presidents chance for reelection. Yay.
> Plus pictures are perfect agitprop in a region where
> many can't read.
>
> For sure CBS has destroyed the Bush goal of June 30th
> for a turnover of power.
>
> Do you think that CBS has gotten Iraq angry enough to
> kill 10,000 Americans? Then Bush will never be
> elected.
>
> Maybe the additional photos published in the Post are
> worth 2,000 more American lives.
>
> Bonus! Rumsfeld has testified that there are about 100
> more photos, some more disturbing. With some more
> leaking that could be worth 25,000 more lives? Maybe
> the media can turn the whole region WHITE HOT in
> anger.
>
> To seal the deal someone should leak a video to CBS.
> Then even Bush's children would not be able to get
> elected.
>
> You are correct CBS has manufactured the long
> predicted quagmire. Now they can claim that they were
> right.
>
> I dispute your characterization of silly, seems to me
> this is serious, deadly serious.
> Steve
>
>
>
>
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