I have to put in my two cents as well and would be willing to be part of the discussion group. Security for schools is so much different than security for the corporate world and many vendors don't see the difference. On support of the network admins I have to put in that teachers and support staff many times do not understand software copyright laws and believe that they can just install any software on their systems with the good ol' reason of "it is for the benefit of the students". We as IT personnel fully understand the need to support the students, but also understand the issues involved with using illegal software. As IT personnel we are hired not only to support the teachers and students, but also to protect the schools from legal action if possible. Todd Ponto Director of Technology Orange North SU (802) 433-5818 x318 [log in to unmask] This e-mail may contain information protected under the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA). If this e-mail contains student information and you are not entitled to access such information under FERPA, please notify the sender. Federal regulations require that you destroy this e-mail without reviewing it and you may not forward it to anyone.