I put on 4 hakkapalitas with studs on my bmw last winter. it went thru everything-snow,slush,ice.downside is the noise on dry pavement ,and theoretically there may be less traction on wet ,bare road although hak maintains the studs retract into the tire in those conditions-I am skeptical.the studs do wear down but then you have a good snow tire. Peter Salts <petersalts@HOTMA IL.COM> To Sent by: Vermont [log in to unmask] Skiing Discussion cc and Snow Reports <[log in to unmask] Subject .EDU> Re: [SKIVT-L] Studs (wuz: Snowtire thread, part 2) 10/30/2005 10:19 PM Please respond to Vermont Skiing Discussion and Snow Reports <[log in to unmask] .EDU> OK - someone mentioned last year that studs were spectacular in the snow. We have a FWD van and an upgrade to 4WD is not in the cards at this point. My snow tires are close to dead. How good are studs in VT snow and ice? We have a few decent grades to climb every weekend that aren't much of a problem most of the time. However, heavy snows have us walking up our hill to our rental near MRG sometimes. Rt. 17 also poses a problem a few weekends each season. I am eager to remedy the situation. Are studs OK for dry road driving on the highways and around town? What should I be concerned with? Any and all advice appreciated. TIA, PS From: Geoff Devine <[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: Vermont Skiing Discussion and Snow Reports - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SkiVt-L is brought to you by the University of Vermont. To unsubscribe, visit http://list.uvm.edu/archives/skivt-l.html