I don't know about you, but it is pretty hard for me to excited about
night skiing.   At Bolton there is the lack of terrain.  I get to ski
weekends and some week days, so skiing Sherman's and Spillway doesn't get
the juices flowing.  Especially now that you have to ski all the way to 
the bottom to get back to the top.  

I did a race league at Stowe.  Anytime there is a night race at Stowe, they
go out of their way to make sure there is no fast skiing.  Gondolier is
not fun at slow speeds. We tried skiing closed trails, but Stowe went to 
great lengths to catch us doing that as well.

I don't know what Denis's crowd was like, but my crowd enjoys themselves.
We have a great time sipping suds and talking.  I know most of the people
that do the race league and this is the only time I get to see them.

Race league for me is more social then anything else.    I definitely do 
not consider it "racing seriously".  If I didn't do the
race league and saved the money I spent,  I would not have enough to take a
vacation out west.   Maybe if I didn't ski regularly in VT, I could save 
enough money for a week out west, but the trade off is not worth it.  

As far as USSA races go: most areas only give a lift ticket that is good
only for one lift.  In general, racers are not highly regarded.
Patrollers seem to put in a lot of effort in trying to slow down racers 
GSing, while ignoring freeskiers that make no turns. 

GMVS prides it's self on running races as efficiently as possible.
They do this because most USSA racers are students.   If a kid can leave
a mountain at 2pm, they can get more work done,  be better rested, and
hopefully avoid eating dinner at McDonalds.

On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 12:40:01 -0400, Ben Peters <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>On Jun 7, 2006, at 11:04, Denis Bogan wrote:
>> Can't recall now if I said so in that story, but the shocking thing
>> about
>> that race was that none of the racers skied after the race was
>> over.  They
>> went to the lodge and waited a good hour and a half for the results
>> and
>> It is also interesting to me how many backcountry skiers have
>> turned to
>> the BC after racing.
>that is one of the things that drives me crazy about racing and
>racing culture... a large percentage of racers don't seem to actually
>like to ski all that much. (that being said, i appreciate how drained
>you can be after 2 runs... both physically and psychologically... not
>skiing after the race on race day can be excusable).  Personally i
>have always been torn between my racing and my free skiing...
>especially since i started telemarking a few years ago. i absolutely
>love backcountry skiing, touring, powder, woods, free heeling,
>etc.... but i'm also addicted to the feel of a good solid carve,  the
>rhythm of a slalom course, and the adrenaline of a downhill. I think
>one of the most valuable things about racing though, is that you get
>a very good set of base skiing skills... the balance you get racing
>will stay with you anywhere. it's not a coincidence that a lot of the
>extreme skiers have racing backgrounds...
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