Yeah, definitely an atlantis, and the eye color is definitely blue-gray in this specimen...but I would suggest learning the comparative field marks etc. just in case someone comes across a road-killed specimen or one dead in the clutches of a spider... Alex ________________________________ From: Vermont Butterfly Survey on behalf of MARIE/KEVIN HEMEON Sent: Sat 9/9/2006 12:35 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [VTLEPS] Azures and Fritillaries - followup I'd say they are blue gray so, an Atlantis. Sometimes color can be tricky in photos. I'd recommend taking a few of both species to save as comparisons for future captures. Like the specimens collectors use to compare a new specimens to. Kevin If it were easy it would get boring quick! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Ferguson <mailto:[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 10:47 PM Subject: [VTLEPS] Azures and Fritillaries - followup Thanks Harry, Kevin, Bryan, Alex, and Kent for your feedback on azures and fritillaries. The azures are a puzzling group, and thanks for the details on flights Harry. It's satisfying to know the Spirea observations were good. I saw at least three of the flights you noted in the Waterbury area this year, but will check field notes to see if there may have been others. Just got a fresh looking one last week (C. neglecta by your time table). For fritillaries, the eye color sounded easy enough so I went out to test it. I'm one who perceives colors differently, as noted by Alex, so I snapped a shot and brought it home to verify. Well, there was no concensus among the "color-unchallenged" in my family whether the eyes were yellow/tan or blue-gray. In case anyone would like to provide an id, I've posted the photo here: http://www.snapdrivenet/pupload/view/33183 <http://www.snapdrive.net/pupload/view/33183> It sounds like for aphrodite/atlantis frits, it might be good to take multiple photos showing several characters. From the characters everyone provided, I'm thinking of noting the following in photos: eye color, underside of hind wing (follow-spots), and the two black marginal parallel lines on the wings above, particularly forewings. I realize this is awfully late in the season to be trying to figure this out. - Mark CAUTION PLEASE NOTE: The information contained in this transmission is intended to be sent only to the stated recipient of the transmission. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the intended recipient's agent, you are hereby notified that we do not intend to waive any privilege that might ordinarily be attached to this communication. Any dissemination, distribution or copying of the information contained in this transmission is therefore prohibited. You are further asked to notify us of any such error in transmission as soon as possible at the telephone number/email address shown above. Thank you for your cooperation.