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I agree with you, Joseph (though not sure about Shaw, he wrote some pretty good stuff). I decided to focus here on race because I THOUGHT people would "get it" much more easily ... Mitchel At 08:56 AM 2/21/2007, you wrote: >Mitchell I think you'll find that if you look closely enough and the >genetics and intelligence issue you'll find that, not only is there >no such thing as race, there is no such thing as genetic >differences in intelligence full stop. Intelligence itself is an >ideological construct rather like money. Like money some people have >more of it than others and like money it can be inherited. It >appears as an ideology in the latter part of the 19th century when >all the property was bought up so to speak and the professional >middle class, Hobsbawm's nouvelle couche sociale, needed a >justification for privilege. So you had Francis Amasa Walker >president of MIT teaching his students about the rent of (their) >ability, their property was their ability and in Britain you had >George Bernard Shaw writing about socialism as the "paradise for the able".