I do not want to blame Mr. Mershon for his comments.  Maybe he is having
a bad day.  I disagree that the Medlibbers listserv is about "begging"
for items and turning becoming into Craig's List.  I am not really
offended but I found the comment ridiculous. 

Many non-teaching hospital libraries have the same demands as teaching
hospitals but have very little resources to support their users. Some of
us are severely understaffed, underbudgeted, and lack resources,
etc....I thought we all can rely on each other sharing our resources.
The spirit of Librarianship is about sharing knowledge. I appreciate the
kindness of other Medlibbers from other countries who have helped me.
Like other Medlibbers, we rely on searching our local collection,
Docline, AMICUS, VDX, and sharing with other partners. Libraries and
librarians share resources and share knowledge.  This is the essence of
our profession.

Trust me, I can assure you that Medlibbers are not lazy. I do not think
this list is used solely as an ILL sharing forum.
Based on reading the threads over the past few months (I'm relatively
new to this list), I have read many interesting discussions that have
nothing to do with ILL inquiries.


Mark Aaron Polger, MLIS, MA
Health Sciences Librarian- Church and Finch Sites
Humber River Regional Hospital
Toronto, Ontario, Canada 
Church Site- Phone: 416.243.4597                   Fax:    416.243.4236
Finch Site  (Wed, Thurs) Phone: 416.744.2500 x2583 Fax: 416.747.3819 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Medical Libraries Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kathy Tacke
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 1:14 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Medlib policy on ILL requests

I take offense to this reply.  "Begging" for free ILL is not what takes
place on Medlib-l.  It is your fortune to have the resources at hand to
meet the needs of your patrons.

I manage a small County hospital library in rural Wyoming with an
equally small budget. I have the respect of my entire county because I
am able to meet their health information needs.  MANY times this list is
responsible for the provision of that information. 

I also give credit where credit is due AND always offer to pay and place
the request on docline if needed.  My jobs also include, grants
coordinator, MS4 systems administrator, long distance education
coordinator, AND I maintain the collections for all other departments
plus the regular duties of library management!  I am not lazy.  

It is obvious you are new to the profession as you have not learned the
merit of networking.  You may need one of us someday.

It is critical that we protect our profession and each other.  When one
looks good, we ALL look good and that IS of merit to our profession.  We
must not lose focus on why we are all here, and that is to help the


Kathy Tacke,
Media and Resource Specialist
Memorial Hospital of Sweetwater County
1200 College Dr.
Rock Springs, WY  82901

-----Original Message-----
From: Medical Libraries Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mershon, Mark A.
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:23 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: FW: Medlib policy on ILL requests

 I have to admit I periodically sign off the list for this very reason.
I am new to the profession and see this constant begging for free ILL as
a sad statement on our colleagues, or even worse, just plain laziness. I
seem to see the same several people and libraries doing the asking and
this too is frustrating. We do not appear to discuss topics of real
merit to our profession. Please exhaust all other opportunities before
we turn this forum into the Medical Librarians Craig's List.

Mark Alan Mershon
Medical Librarian
Arneson Methodist Library
fax.# 952-993-1322
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-----Original Message-----
From: Medical Libraries Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kleinmuntz, Dalia
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 9:03 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Medlib policy on ILL requests

I believe that the policy has not changed.  One has to identify the
request on the subject line as ILL (same as with "Chat").  

The problem is that there might be too many who just do not know how to
check Docline for "who has what where and from what year", or do not
bother to do so.   It is taken for granted - even among librarians -
that almost  "everything is on the net", or that it can be gotten for
free if one just asks.   I do not mind helping out, and all our holdings
are so noted online, so that a search for the journal and the year ought
to identify us as holding the particular year, and thus sent directly to
us, not to the whole list.

Libraries ought to make sure that all their holdings are listed with
NLM.  It  takes a bit of time, but is a simple solution.  And DOC LINE
is such a great tool - all ought to learn to use it properly!!!!,

Dalia Kleinmuntz, M.L.S. 
Director of Webster Library & ENH Library Resources Evanston Hospital,
Evanston Northwestern Healthcare
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Opinions expressed are my own and do not reflect those of ENH.
-----Original Message-----
From: Medical Libraries Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Thomas L. Williams
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:31 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Medlib policy on ILL requests


Has Medlib changed its policy on using the listserv for ILL requests?
In the past the policy was that we could only do that when  
we've exhausted all other possibilities; Docline, OCLC, or whatever.   
Lately there seems to be ever-increasing ILL traffic on the list?  If
it's now open season to do ILLs I'd like to know so we can avail
ourselves of this service.



Thomas L. Williams, M.S.,A.H.I.P.
Director, Distributed eLibrary
Weill Cornell Medical College Qatar
Education City P.O. 24144
Doha, Qatar
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