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I've read the posts from the two people who responded about this bird's 
likely being a blue jay mimicking a red-shouldered hawk, but after reviewing 
the log of posts since 3/23, I don't see any other responses on-list to the 
post/question containing the audio cue. Could those who replied off-list 
about the bird's sounding like a red-shouldered please reply to the list? I 
had read the numerous responses back when the original visual material was 
posted, and they all helped me in my learning curve. Responses to the audio 
question would help, too. Thanks!

Charlotte Bill
Enosburg

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie Waters" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: [VTBIRD] Raptor call ID help


> At 8:53 AM -0400 3/23/07, Nancy A. Brown wrote:
>>Julie did you see the bird?
>
> I saw the bird-- I didn't want to say anything about it first because I 
> wanted an objective answer and didn't want anyone being guided by my 
> interpretations or assumptions, so please accept my apologies if this 
> comes across as deceptive.  I just didn't know another way to get 
> responses that didn't involve getting caught up in the visual cues.
>
> This call I posted was the red-shouldered hawk that's been hanging out in 
> our yard throughout the winter. I know there's been some question over 
> whether it's a red-tail or a red-shouldered.  With the exception of the 
> two posts which pinned it as a blue-jay, everyone else who's written me 
> has been certain that it's the call of a red-shouldered hawk, even without 
> any visuals.  I'm still willing to entertain the idea that it's a hybrid 
> of some sort (if that's even possible-- I can't yet find sufficient 
> information to judge whether or not it is), but there is absolutely no 
> doubt in my mind that the bird is a red-shouldered.
>
> Here are some pictures of it from the time I did the recording:
>
> http://juliesmagiclightshow.com/?&tc=58&keywords=red&dte=2007-03-23
>
> I also want to note that this is not something I would do in the wild-- if 
> a bird were screeching at me during a forest walk or some other such 
> thing, I'd back off extremely quickly, in case there's a nest nearby.  I'm 
> a big believer in not interfering with birds in their own habitat.
>
> I feel, however, that if a bird is going to be hanging out in several 
> yards in my neighborhood, that it's probably used to seeing humans enough 
> that while it may not like us, it won't be actively damaged or overly 
> frustrated by our occasional attention.
>
> --julie
>
> P.S. if anyone's interested, I got some short-eared owl pictures at Plum 
> Island yesterday-- a life bird for me
>
> http://juliesmagiclightshow.com/?dte=2007-03-24&tc=58&keywords=owls
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