I hate to be a pain about this, but we were told by the tax department as
recently as last month that we don't have to refuse PTTR's if they don't
have the social security numbers. We need a consensus from the tax
department before we refuse them.
-Bobbi in Marshfield
At 10:54 AM 4/25/2007, you wrote:
While all
of the information requested on the PTR is useful and we encourage
parties to fill in all the boxes and blanks, we recognize that refusing a
PTR is an extreme and time-consuming measure not to be taken
lightly.
Sections 9606 and 9608 of Title 32 require a PTR to
include the following: signatures of the parties or their legal
representatives, the basis for any exemption claimed, the true value of
the property transferred, such information as the commissioner may
reasonably require for proper administration of the transfer tax, and
certain information regarding local and state permits and Act 250
certificates.
What does this means on the PTR itself for it to be
considered "complete and regular on its face" as required by 32
V.S.A. §9607? The following sections must be completed: Sections A and B
(including social security numbers); C; L or M through P; the section
entitled "Local and State Permits and Act 250 Certificates";
and the parties must sign the form (signature of preparer is not
required). If the property is enrolled in the current use program,
Section K must also be filled in to comply with 32 V.S.A. §3757(e).
Social security numbers are required for the
administration of the transfer tax and must be included on the copy of
the PTR filed with the Tax Department. SSNs should be blacked-out on the
copy of the PTR filed in the land records.
Suzanne
Suzanne M. Monte
Assistant Attorney General
Vermont Department of Taxes,
Division of Property Valuation and Review
P.O. Box 429
Montpelier, VT 05601-0429
Phone: (802) 828-2731
Fax: (802) 828-5873
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mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Thomas J.
Dailey
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:00 AM
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Subject: Re: Signatures on PTTR's
Suzanne - Does the signature requirement
also apply to the preparer line? Some attorneys are reluctant to
sign the returns they prepare - Tom
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Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:34 AM
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Subject: Re: Signatures on PTTR's
Hi all,
Town clerks cannot perform their statutory duties
if a PTR is not signed.
Section 9606(b) of Title 32 of the Vermont Statutes
Annotated requires a PTR to be signed by each party. Section 9607
requires a PTR to be complete and regular on its face for a town
clerk to issue a signed and written acknowledgment to the transferee and
to affix an acknowledgment on the deed. If the PTR is not signed, it is
not complete and the town clerk cannot issue an acknowledgment to the
transferee or affix an acknowledgment on the deed.
In addition, per 32 V.S.A. §9608 a town clerk
cannot record a deed unless it is affixed with an acknowledgment of
return and tax payment under Section 9607 and a signed certificate that
the conveyance is in compliance with or exempt from the provisions of
chapter 151 of Title 10. The required certificate is on page two of the
PTR. Therefore, a town clerk cannot enter the required acknowledgment on
a deed or record a deed until he/she receives a signed PTR.
Suzanne M. Monte
Assistant Attorney General
Vermont Department of Taxes,
Division of Property Valuation and Review
P.O. Box 429
Montpelier, VT 05601-0429
Phone: (802) 828-2731
Fax: (802) 828-5873
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From: Vermont Municipal Government
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mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Linda L. Spence,
CMC/CVC
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 4:06 PM
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Subject: Re: Signatures on PTTR's
Hi Toni,
While I can understand your frustration at the lack of
thoroughness of the PTTR's being completed by Attorneys etc., no
where in state statute are we authorized to refuse anything for
recording, barring the total absence of a PTTR or a survey mentioned in
the deed.
It would appear that your issue is with those preparing the
PTTRs themselves, and not the Town Clerks.
Linda
- ----- Original Message -----
- From: May, Toni
- To: [log in to unmask]
- Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:26 AM
- Subject: Signatures on PTTR's
- Many PTTR's are being submitted to the Tax Dept. without
both sellers and buyers signatures.
- I would like to remind all town clerks that when a PTTR
is filed, signatures by each of the parties or their legal
representatives are required. 32 V.S.A 9606 (b).
- To avoid any confusion in the future, I ask that town
clerks please double check PTTR's when they are submitted to their
office. If they do not contain the required signatures, please send them
back to the preparer to be filled out properly.
- I appreciate your time and cooperation in this
matter.
- Thank You
- Toni May,Tax Examiner
- Vermont Property Transfer Tax
Bobbi Brimblecombe
Marshfield Town Clerk
122 School Street, Room 1
Marshfield, VT 05658
(802) 426-3305
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