p.s. also, doesn't "science" interact with just about everything else on the planet? can't we look at the interdisciplinary nature of science and be a bit broad-minded as to topics brought up here? just wondering... garda On 7/2/07, Garda Ghista <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > dear members, > > the rules list is a bit intimidating. as i mentioned before, on my lists > we try to do it as a participatory or collective democracy thing - we > moderate each other right on the list. anyway..... may i ask a couple of > questions, and please bear with me if they are weird - but i need to get > some grounding of the collective mindset of this list. > > 1. would it be correct to say that all of you oppose American Empire? and > US foreign imperialist wars? > > 2. would it be correct to say that all of you oppose capitalism as a > demonstrated failed economic model? > > 3. what is the solution or alternative to Empire? > > 4. what economic model would you prefer implemented - if supposing > capitalism collapses? > > thanks for bearing with me, and hope to get some response, > > garda > > > > On 7/2/07, Michael H Goldhaber <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > Dear SftP list members, > > > > If you approve, I am willing to take on the task of list "co-owner." > > > > George Salzman, who did so much to found this list and increase its > > membership has asked twice now to be relieved of the burden as "co-owner," > > which means, in essence moderator. I am grateful he has reinstated Michael > > Balter, though I was critical of the way he removed him in the first place. > > > > > > > > A while ago, in response to George's first request, I offered to be > > moderator, but most who responded did not want a moderator. In the light of > > that, and subsequent events, I want to make clear that I would try to > > avoid censorship of any sort, unless a clear consensus forms that someone is > > doing great damage to the list. The only exception would be clear > > emergencies. > > > > > > I am forwarding my original moderation guidelines unchanged, but want to > > make clear these would only be guidelines, not rules. If I note violations, > > I would suggest to the violator(s) that maybe they could modify their > > posting habits accordingly. I would be open to further suggestions as to how > > to improve these guidelines, of course. > > > > > > Herb Fox is willing to be a more passive (yet) co-owner, ready to jump > > in if I flag overmuch. > > > > > > Anyone else who wishes to be a candidate should let us all know. > > > > > > Best, > > > > Michael > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > *From: *Michael H Goldhaber < [log in to unmask]> > > *Date: *June 5, 2007 11:56:45 AM PDT > > *To: *[log in to unmask] > > *Subject: **Moderation* > > *Reply-To: *Science for the People Discussion List < > > [log in to unmask]> > > > > > > I am willing to be one of several people taking turns moderating, but I > > would rather start my turn in about three weeks. Here are the ground > > rules I would propose to use: > > > > > > 1. A maximum of four posts per person per day, of which no more than two > > can be on the same topic or thread. (This will allow for the Phil's posts of > > articles.) > > > > > > 2. Respect for other's viewpoints in replies. If one can find no basis > > for respect, either one is very far out on a limb or enough others will feel > > the same that no reply is required. > > > > > > 3. Germaneness to the list. Does this post have to do with science? Does > > it have a connection with a left perspective, loosely defined? > > > > > > 4. Originality. Does the post say something that has not been said > > within the last couple of months, at the very least? > > > > > > 5. Some respect for the intelligence and knowledge of the average group > > member in each post. > > > > > > 6. No blanket condemnations or personal attacks. > > > > > > 7. No posts whose point is to argue that one's particular version of > > leftism is better than someone else's. > > > > > > 8. An urge that everyone exercise self-restraint. Despite the limits of > > four post per day, most people should post far fewer, probably no more than > > one every few days. > > > > > > Optional: > > > > > > 9. Moderators should encourage the practice that each post should try to > > offer a constructive alternative to what is being criticized, for example a > > sounder policy about vaccinations or how drug innovation should properly > > occur. > > > > > > 10. Moderators should encourage the practice of humility in the form of > > posts. It is an open question as to what would truly constitute "science for > > the people" or even how to bring about a better, fairer world. We have > > more questions than answers, and that is appropriate to acknowledge. > > > > > > If no one else is willing to co-moderate, I would urge everyone to try > > to follow these suggestions (perhaps a smodified by others) for the time > > being anyway. > > > > > > (In the meantime, for those who find the last few days entertaining, I > > suggest somene start a new list:Vituperation for the People. Each post would > > at least have to explain why the poster deserves to be on that list but > > someone else does not. ) > > > > > > > > Best, > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > World Prout Assembly > http://www.worldproutassembly.org > Email: [log in to unmask] > Tel: 859 781-4979 > Skype: garda.ghista -- World Prout Assembly http://www.worldproutassembly.org Email: [log in to unmask] Tel: 859 781-4979 Skype: garda.ghista