Don't you think there should be several co-owners? George got landed withthis because of no response from one co-owner, for whatever reason. I thinkthere should be four people (maybe five, but that might be pushing it) withthe hot button, as that would mean you're unlikely to get one person alonein charge at any time.Mandi----- Original Message -----From: "Eric Entemann" <[log in to unmask]>To: <[log in to unmask]>Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 10:56 PMSubject: Re: Should I replace George as co-owner?You have my vote.----Original Message Follows----From: Michael H Goldhaber <[log in to unmask]>Reply-To: Science for the People Discussion ListSubject: Should I replace George as co-owner?Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 13:39:45 -0700Dear SftP list members,If you approve, I am willing to take on the task of list "co-owner."George Salzman, who did so much to found this list and increase itsmembership has asked twice now to be relieved of the burden as "co-owner,"which means, in essence moderator. I am grateful he has reinstatedMichaelBalter, though I was critical of the way he removed him in the firstplace.A while ago, in response to George's first request, I offered to bemoderator, but most who responded did not want a moderator. In the lightofthat, and subsequent events, I want to make clear that I would try toavoidcensorship of any sort, unless a clear consensus forms that someone isdoing great damage to the list. The only exception would be clearemergencies.I am forwarding my original moderation guidelines unchanged, but want tomake clear these would only be guidelines, not rules. If I noteviolations,I would suggest to the violator(s) that maybe they could modify theirposting habits accordingly. I would be open to further suggestions as tohow to improve these guidelines, of course.Herb Fox is willing to be a more passive (yet) co-owner, ready to jump inif I flag overmuch.Anyone else who wishes to be a candidate should let us all know.Best,MichaelBegin forwarded message:From: Michael H Goldhaber <[log in to unmask]>Date: June 5, 2007 11:56:45 AM PDTSubject: ModerationReply-To: Science for the People Discussion List <SCIENCE-FOR-THE-I am willing to be one of several people taking turns moderating, but Iwould rather start my turn in about three weeks.Here are the ground rules I would propose to use:1. A maximum of four posts per person per day, of which no more than twocan be on the same topic or thread. (This will allow for the Phil'spostsof articles.)2. Respect for other's viewpoints in replies. If one can find no basisforrespect, either one is very far out on a limb or enough others will feelthe same that no reply is required.3. Germaneness to the list. Does this post have to do with science? Doesit have a connection with a left perspective, loosely defined?4. Originality. Does the post say something that has not been saidwithinthe last couple of months, at the very least?5. Some respect for the intelligence and knowledge of the average groupmember in each post.6. No blanket condemnations or personal attacks.7. No posts whose point is to argue that one's particular version ofleftism is better than someone else's.8. An urge that everyone exercise self-restraint. Despite the limits offour post per day, most people should post far fewer, probably no morethan one every few days.Optional:9. Moderators should encourage the practice that each post should try tooffer a constructive alternative to what is being criticized, for examplea sounder policy about vaccinations or how drug innovation shouldproperlyoccur.10. Moderators should encourage the practice of humility in the form ofposts. It is an open question as to what would truly constitute "sciencefor the people" or even how to bring about a better, fairer world. Wehavemore questions than answers, and that is appropriate to acknowledge.If no one else is willing to co-moderate, I would urge everyone to trytofollow these suggestions (perhaps a smodified by others) for the timebeing anyway.(In the meantime, for those who find the last few days entertaining, Isuggest somene start a new list:Vituperation for the People. Each postwould at least have to explain why the poster deserves to be on thatlistbut someone else does not. )Best,Michael_________________________________________________________________Need a brain boost? Recharge with a stimulating game. Play now!__________ NOD32 2372 (20070703) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.