I think what you have is a molting male Scarlet Tanager changing into winter plumage. Al -----Original Message----- From: Vermont Birds [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hilke Breder Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 2:39 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [VTBIRD] Western Tanager I think I saw a female western tanager at Herricks Cove this morning: http://www.stonepost.com/Tanager.htm Hilke Breder