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ah what the heck--i'll try to engage with the technical stuff: > >1. Skidded turns require low edge angles, but low edge angles make it >more likely you'll catch an edge. If you double the width, you double >the height of the catchable edge off the surface for a given edge angle. girth? >2. Skids initiate easier with dull (or absent) edges, and one edge of a >junkboard has no steel. irrelevant if you initiate turn on the inside edge, no? >3. Skidded turns are stabler & more forgiving with torsionally softer >ski-like objects. Junkboards win again. ok. makes sense... since the torsional rigidity is shot when you cut one in half, eh? >I can telemarks on XC skis on frost and have fun, and just about any >soft beater of ski ski works in an inch of snow if you have any finesse >at all. It's not as if junkboards are the only game in town, but they >may be the easiest ride in some conditions. ok. no doubt. not claiming they're the only game, just that they're the best on frost to two (and i claim this only, and maybe only, because i enjoy dumb arguments like i enjoy dumb action flicks). >I'd still take a STIFF beater of a ski over a junkboard after any ice >storm though no doubt. not claiming they're good on anything harder than oatmeal. in fact, my advice is this: never, never take them on anything stiffer than beaten egg-whites. (which was the conditions I had described in an earlier >posting.) again, sorry i missed it. have a good ski on whatever you ski on. --justin - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SkiVt-L is brought to you by the University of Vermont. To unsubscribe, visit http://list.uvm.edu/archives/skivt-l.html