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Not "outside" at all. This is called collegiality. We are forming a community of mutual consultation. Cool. Mike Quoting Andrew Laing <[log in to unmask]>: > Hi EWB, > > Just to jump in from an outside perspective.. > > AERO faced similar issues last Spring when we started tackling > design and continue to as we refine our design. > > > The race car's design/build cycle goes something like this: > > 1. Plan: Research rules of the race and establish action > objectives that maximize performance within rules and > available resources. > > 2. Do: Do the plan (analyze, model, source, fab, etc.). > > 3. Check: Compare results with objectives. Report back to Team. > > 4. Act: Based on results refactor process to improve before next > cycle begins. > > The most important resource has been good information. Our > collaboration mechanisms (a Wiki, version controlled repository, > email lists) have proved central to our ability to make good > decisions and thereby produce good results. Testing out our ideas > would be worthless unless we incorporated results into an evolving > (learned), always improving design. > > Participation is crucial. Our meetings follow an agenda and always > include time at the end for every person to speak and report > accomplishments from the last week and plans for the week > coming. Meeting agenda is always posted to our Wiki allowing for > any team member to add to it (very useful). The agenda maintains > focus that yields shorter meetings and it has been our experience > that the shorter meetings are usually our most productive. > > I had the opportunity to see Brett present your project this week > to my Engineering Management class. He gave a really good > introduction to the background of the effort, and then did a good > dimensional analysis for the design. This seems like a perfect > place to begin. The evaporator is a very interesting engineering > problem, and one in which you could make a big, positive impact > for all stakeholders involved. > > Be sure to bug us over at AERO if we can help or you have any > specific questions for how we are organizing our problems or > executing their solutions. > > Best of luck! > > Cheers, Andrew > > > |--==> "EK" == Ezra Kahn <[log in to unmask]> writes: > > EK> Yes, it is definitely too soon to start designing sugar refiners. But > EK> we still have some pretty basic "pre-design" questions. Like, who is > EK> going to be involved in this project? How are we going to meet and > EK> communicate with each other? Should we create a CEMS account? Use > EK> google docs? What exactly do we cumulatively know? What on/off > EK> campus resources are available to guide us? > > EK> I, for one, would VERY much like to be involved in this project. > EK> However, I am still a fresh member to our club, and feel the need to > EK> officially meet and talk with those I hope to work with. > > EK> My opinion is that established, regular design meetings, separate from > EK> club business meetings, is necessary. I think it is also important > EK> for us, as a group, to work out what our questions are. > > EK> Thanks, > > EK> Ezra > > EK> Quoting "Michael J. Rosen" <[log in to unmask]>: > > >>Where I can help on this is design process. I teach it. A lot. > >>Can we schedule one of the upcoming EWB meetings to be a design > >>session? Invite experts and consultants as needed (e.g. Peter). > >>Mike > >> > >>Quoting Peter DeGraff <[log in to unmask]>: > >> > >>>I tend to agree. Before you get too far along, I'd like to sit down > >>>with the group and Dan, discuss what's currently being done, materials > >>>available, evaporator design, operational characteristics, fuel > >>>available, etc. Just want to start out on the right foot. > >>> > >>>Peter DeGraff, P.E. > >>>President > >>>Otter Creek Engineering, Inc. > >>> > >>>P.O. Box 712, 404 East Main Street > >>>East Middlebury, VT 05740 > >>>(802) 382-8522 (p) (802) 382-8640 (f) > >>>[log in to unmask] > >>> > >>> > >>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>From: Engineers Without Borders [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > >>>>Behalf Of Michael J. Rosen > >>>>Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:05 AM > >>>>To: [log in to unmask] > >>>>Subject: Re: Engineering > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>OK, thanks. So "working on designs" means drawing them in > >>>>SolidWorks? Have there been any group design sessions to > >>>>actually do the thinking > >>>>and conceptualizing and arguing and scholarship part of the design > >>>>process? No criticisim implied; I'm just wondering where the process > >>>>stands. > >>>>Mike > >>>> > >>>>Quoting Brett Daniel Davis <[log in to unmask]>: > >>>> > >>>>>One of the second floor computer labs, if there is room. I'll be > >>>>>there by 4 pm. > >>>>> > >>>>>Thanks, > >>>>> > >>>>>Brett > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Quoting "Michael J. Rosen" <[log in to unmask]>: > >>>>> > >>>>>>Working where in Votey? > >>>>>>Mike > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Quoting Brett Daniel Davis <[log in to unmask]>: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Hey Everyone, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>I mentioned that I would be working today in Votey on > >>>>the designs > >>>>>>>for the oven from 5-7 tonight. I won't be in there tonight. > >>>>>>>However, tomorrow, I'll be working on it around 3 or 4. > >>>>If you're > >>>>>>>interested shoot me an email. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Thanks, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Brett > >>>> > >>>>__________ NOD32 2586 (20071011) Information __________ > >>>> > >>>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >>>http://www.eset.com > >>> > > > -- > Andrew Laing <[log in to unmask]> > Pandora's Rule: > Never open a box you didn't close. >