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Just answered the other e-mail on this subject and wanted to share with the coffee stir group... I use a higher tech medical device, It's called a wooden Q-Tip and I get them from EEG.. free The best is the end of a wooden Q Tip. Then connect dot to dot with the skin marking solution the surgeons give to me from the pharmacy. The lines stay on for 2-3 days prior to surgery. Scan put the Q-Tip under the transducer, hold Q-tip in place with mild pressure down 30-40 secs. while the other hand is scanning down for the next site. Two hands going all the time, done in 5-10 mins... It's great. Turn on the lights and there are your dot to dot marks. I mark branches along the leg where there is no gel with a ball point pen on the thigh, mark the branches while marking the GSV and the pen marks come off when the gel is wiped off. I have been doing this for 16 years and it is a breeze. Denise Levy, ARDMS, RVT, RCDS San Jose, CA On 1/4/08, Kelly <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Thanks for the responses. I'll try it and compare it to the old stir > stick. > > > > Kelly > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* UVM Flownet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Terry > Zwakenberg > *Sent:* Friday, January 04, 2008 7:47 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: marking pen > > > > can't beat the price. sometimes technology gets in the way of > common sense. > > > > Terry J Zwakenberg > > On Jan 4, 2008 5:43 PM, doug marcum <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > I agree with Terry...I have been using straw, coffee stir stick, > "click-type" ball point pen (*without* ink tip deployed, just the pointed > end) to push lightly through the gel, then wipe off gel and "connect the > indentations/dots" I have never had any complaints about discomfort. Try > it yourself on the inside of your forearm which is tender area to begin with > and see how long the red circles stay. I find it unnecessary to spend > on specialty product to mark through gel, then wipe off gel and connect the > dots anyway??? > > Doug > > *Doug Marcum BA,RDMS,RDCS,RVT(APS)* > > *Advanced Ultrasound Consultants* > > *Elite Solutions for Diagnostics ,Vein Therapy/Insufficiency Scanning, * > > *and On-Site Education* > > *Orlando**, FL* > > *321.231.2191* > > *advancedusconsultants.com* > > > ------------------------------ > > Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. Start sharing!<http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008> > > To unsubscribe or search other topics on UVM Flownet link to: > http://list.uvm.edu/archives/uvmflownet.html > > > > > -- > To handle yourself, use your head. To handle others, use your heart. To > unsubscribe or search other topics on UVM Flownet link to: > http://list.uvm.edu/archives/uvmflownet.html > To unsubscribe or search other topics on UVM Flownet link to: > http://list.uvm.edu/archives/uvmflownet.html > -- Hugs, Denise AKA Sis To unsubscribe or search other topics on UVM Flownet link to: http://list.uvm.edu/archives/uvmflownet.html