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Sam wrote: >ps. allen - i re-broke my rib today in a hard fall onto rocks, i >think i'm going to take tomorrow off, but if i'm feeling ok by >tonight, i might consider some bolton BC or a teardrop tomorrow. CLASSIC! >-----Original Message----- >From: Sam Lozier [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 02:27 PM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: [SKIVT-L] Skier Dies in Wolverine Cirque > >you are dumb and reckless and have a death wish. > > >kidding, i actually totally agree. i think its cynical to think that >the circumstances of death aren't important, even if only for those >that survive the deceased. I'd personally way rather go out doing >what i loved, especially if it was quick, than slowly fading away in >a hospital somewhere. I've also been asked to write a living will and >had been putting it off because its an uncomfortable subject, but all >these recent deaths have gotten me thinking about how important it >is. Skiing is never about dying, its about (for me anyways) doing >something that challenges and tests me in an environment that i love, >it makes me feel alive. My grandfather passed over the summer of a >huge heart attack, but he had hung on for over a month after the >attack getting depressed and essentially waiting to die. i dont think >anyone should have to go that way. > >sam > >ps. allen - i re-broke my rib today in a hard fall onto rocks, i >think i'm going to take tomorrow off, but if i'm feeling ok by >tonight, i might consider some bolton BC or a teardrop tomorrow. >On Jan 23, 2008, at 1:54 PM, Allen Taylor wrote: > >> Fun Fun, lets all rip on the young guy because he thinks he is >> invincible and thinks that a skiing death is glorious. >> >> Seriously though as cliche as it may be he did die doing what he >> loved. I'm not saying in any way that he wanted to die, or intended >> for it to happen. The fact of the matter is that he is dead which is a >> horrible fact. Now on the other hand he died in a situation he put >> himself in in the mountains I'm sure he loved. He was not hit by a >> bus, didn't die of an overdose, or wasn't murdered. If you want to >> talk about tragedy look at the numbers of people who die each year >> from alcohol poisoning and overdoses alone. Those people die not in >> the pursuit of happiness but instead under the influence of a drug or >> their peers. Billy has nobody to blame for his death, there will >> hopefully be no lawsuits and no settlements. He made a choice to live >> life to its fullest and it finally caught up with him where he made a >> poor decision, got unlucky, or both. I'm sure he understood fully the >> danger he was putting himself in unlike all of the unlucky people who >> die every year from unfortunate accidents on groomed trails. >> >> Most skiers (or any athletes in general) who push it don't do it out >> of any death wish, or even in the hope of recognition, it is a way of >> life and those who have never experienced it will never understand it. >> >> In response to Leigh's question I think that a more broad question is >> more appropriate. >> >> If had a choice between seeking adventure and hapiness in the >> outdoors for the next 8 years in any way possible (where I am now >> skiing, and climbing present the best opportunity for this, but there >> are many other sports and pursuits where this is possible). >> >> versus >> >> Spending the next 68 years imprisoned in a city away from the natural >> world at a computer in a cubicle waiting for stress and heart disease >> to catch up with me as I slave towards the perceived success of >> material wealth. Where the most exciting thing that happens to me is >> watching Sunday night football and drinking away my stress. >> >> I'll take the 8 years >> >> Most of you who don't know me and my friends that well probably assume >> I'm young and dumb, overconfident, reckless etc. etc. I do think >> however that the people who know me and my friends understand why we >> do stuff and understand that we're not just overconfident, >> "testosterone fueled", young idiots, with an immature death wish. >> >> My friends and I spend a good amount of time thinking and talking >> about this kind of stuff. I even wrote a living will not that long ago >> which was a very deep experience of reflection for me. We have all had >> close calls and experiences, they just don't go away, they stay with >> you and can bear influence on the rest of your career. >> >> Skiers like billy aren't skiing to die, they are skiing to live. >> >> Allen >> >> -- >> As lonely as the mountain can be, lonelier still is the man whose >> travels take him away from the mountains. >> >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >> SkiVt-L is brought to you by the University of Vermont. >> >> To unsubscribe, visit http://list.uvm.edu/archives/skivt-l.html > >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >SkiVt-L is brought to you by the University of Vermont. > >To unsubscribe, visit http://list.uvm.edu/archives/skivt-l.html > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SkiVt-L is brought to you by the University of Vermont. To unsubscribe, visit http://list.uvm.edu/archives/skivt-l.html