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>Apropos Cloudveil and Marmot, Cloudveil will have been purchased by Jarden (
>www.jarden.com), the parent company of Marmot, K2, Voelkl, et al.
>
>http://www.jarden.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=72395&p=outdoor-solutions


that is a lot of names.  wow. 

Similar experiences with LL Beans as well. 

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