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I repeat: Mitchel has been suckered by supposed "revelations" that were
actually made many years ago. The people who signed it are not luminaries,
but usual suspects in the Duesberg camp. It is not a serious argument, but
the usual nonsense.

MB

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Mitchel Cohen
<[log in to unmask]>wrote:

>  This is no way to dismiss a very serious argument about a very specific
> and purportedly seminal bit of research. It is simply ad-hominem, and a VERY
> unscientific approach.
>
> We'll see if Science magazine publishes the letter. There are enough
> luminaries who've signed it that will hopefully carry it past the usual
> gatekeepers.
>
> It's generally worth checking, Michael, one's own presuppositions, and to
> not be so afraid that everything you've been arguing is at least more
> nuanced than you believed.
>
> Mitchel
>
>
>
> At 05:19 PM 12/15/2008, you wrote:
>
> Wow, this is really hot stuff. I suppose the thousands of papers that have
> independently confirmed that HIV causes AIDS since Gallo's original
> publication are now invalidated too.
>
> btw, Janine Roberts doesn't believe that viruses cause disease, even polio
> (recall Jim West.)
>
>  http://www.sparks-of-light.org/
>
> But comrades like Mitchel will continue to be suckers for this kind of
> thing as long as they refuse to get scientifically educated.
>
> MB
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Mitchel Cohen <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>  From: janine roberts < [log in to unmask]<jan%40janineroberts.plus.com>
> >
>
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: 15th December 2008
>
> SCIENTISTS CONFIRM
>
> NEW EVIDENCE OF MAJOR SCIENTIFIC FRAUD IN AIDS RESEARCH
>
> THEY CALL FOR THE WITHDRAWAL OF MUCH-CITED AIDS RESEARCH PAPERS.
>
> Nearly 25 years after the publication of four foundational articles
> on HIV and AIDS,
>  < <http://www.sparks-of-light.org/LetterToScience-Public.pdf%3E37>
> http://www.sparks-of-light.org/LetterToScience-Public.pdf>37<http://www.sparks-of-light.org/LetterToScience-Public.pdf%3E37>
> prominent scientists, physicians and legal experts have written to
> the Science journal to ask for their withdrawal because they "lack
> integrity and veracity."
>
> Their request is based on documentary evidence of fraud uncovered by
> a British investigative journalist, Janine Roberts and published in
> her new book "Fear of the Invisible."
>
> Roberts stated: "I was shocked to discover this evidence of grave
> scientific fraud, the more so because it is in documents unearthed
> and verified by government inquiries in the 1990s but then buried
> without comment. This could be the scientific scandal of the century. "
>
> The new evidence reveals that Dr. Robert Gallo, the former US
> National Cancer Institute (NCI) laboratory chief famed for proving
> HIV causes AIDS, for which he has been awarded 27 honorary degrees
> and the USA and Germany's most prestigious scientific awards, based
> this claim on his own unverified major
>  < <http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/%3Elast-minute>
> http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/>last-minute<http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/%3Elast-minute>alterations to the
> report made by Mikulas Popovic, the scientist in his laboratory who
> had actually carried out the key experiment and who had concluded
> quite differently.
>
> What is particularly astonishing is that these previously unreported
> changes are in the authenticated draft of the key lead paper as it
> was one week before going for publication. One of Gallo's changes to
> this draft has been previously cited by government investigations as
> proving that Gallo used a virus 'borrowed' from the Institut
> Pasteur. This is a major reason why scientists from the latter
> institute last week won a Nobel Prize for this discovery, and not
> Robert Gallo. However, what has not been previously reported are the
> many other changes Gallo made.
>
> What we now know is that about seven days before the paper was to go
> for publication, Gallo returned from abroad to find that Popovic had
> in the draft paper, not only admitted to using the French virus, but
> also to not having tested it to see if it caused AIDS.
>
> Roberts explains what happened next. "Gallo was faced with a personal
> disaster. He had told numerous people that he anticipated great
> success and had arranged for the paper to be published
> prominently. So he rewrote the paper by hand, despite him not having
> done the work. The draft reveals that he deleted by hand Popovic's
> explicit statement: "Despite intensive research efforts, the
> causative agent of AIDS has not yet been identified" and changed the
> rest so substantially that the paper would be acclaimed when
> published as proving the very opposite."
>
> The letter now sent to Science from 37 signatories reports:
> "Popovic's final conclusion was that the culture he produced
> 'provides the possibility' for detailed studies. He claimed to have
> achieved nothing more. At no point in his paper did Popovic attempt
> to prove that any virus caused AIDS, and it is evident that Gallo
> concealed these key elements in Popovic's experimental findings."
>
> Gallo and Popovic share part of the substantial revenue from a patent
> for HIV tests that cites and is based this same paper.
>
> The letter's 37 signatories include medical doctors, chemists,
> oncologists, university professors, virologists, researchers,
> pathologists and biologists. A lawyer has also signed who is the Lead
> Counsel in the Rwanda War Crimes Tribunal.
>
> Roberts' new book includes scanned copies of the evidence that, in
> the view of their view, substantiates her charges. This evidence is
> now also available on her <
> <http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/%3Ebook%27s>
> http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/>book's<http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/%3Ebook%27s>
> website.
>
> The prestigious International Semmelweis Organization, a body that
> focuses on matters of medical ethics, yesterday endorsed this same letter.
>
> This deceit is the more important because it has since proved
> impossible to repeat the experiment as published. The Office of
> Research Integrity of the US Department of Health and Human Services
> reported in 1993: 'Gallo's irresponsible laboratory management has
> permanently impaired the ability to retrace the important steps
> taken.' An investigation conducted by Congressman John Dingell
> between 1990 and 1994 further reported that Gallo distributed
> research materials with the express stipulation that his experiments
> be not be repeated.
>
> The letter calling for the withdrawal of these papers concludes: "For
> the scientific record to be reliable, it is vital that papers shown
> to be flawed, or falsified be retracted."
>
> Janine Roberts
>
> Author, "Fear of the Invisible"
>
> ISBN 9780955917721
>
> Impact Investigative Media Productions
>
> Landline (44) 117 925 6818 Cell (44) 7970 253931
>
> Email
> < <[log in to unmask]> mailto:[log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]>>[log in to unmask]<jan%40fearoftheinvisible.com>
> Websites
> < <http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/> http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/>
> <http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/> www.fearoftheinvisible.com
>  <http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/> < <http://www.sparks-of-light.org/>http://www.sparks-of-light.org/>
> <http://www.sparks-of-light.org/> www.sparks-of-light.org
>
>  <http://www.sparks-of-light.org/> Clark Baker
>
> Semmelweis Society International, Inc. (SSI)
>
> (323) 650-6667 (voice) (323) 656-3909 (fax)
>
> < <[log in to unmask]> mailto:[log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]>>
> [log in to unmask] <clark%40semmelweis.org> www.semmelweis.org
>
>  <http://www.semmelweis.org/> DOCUMENTS AVAILABLE
>
> The letter sent to the Science journal.
>  < <http://www.sparks-of-light.org/LetterToScience-Public.pdf>
> http://www.sparks-of-light.org/LetterToScience-Public.pdf >Available
> Here With References.
>
> The Semmelweis Board resolution
>  < <http://www.semmelweis.org/aids/GalloAIDSHIV.pdf%3Eon>
> http://www.semmelweis.org/aids/GalloAIDSHIV.pdf>on<http://www.semmelweis.org/aids/GalloAIDSHIV.pdf%3Eon>this matter.
>
> The altered lead paper, with handwritten changes by Robert Gallo.
>  < <http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/%3EHere>http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/>Here<http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/%3EHere>
> .
>
> Letter from Head of Electron Microscopy at the NCI, reporting no
> viruses in sample Gallo has said contained his AIDS virus. This is
> dated four days before the papers went to
>  Science< <http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/>http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/>.
> Here.
>
> Letter from Robert Gallo dated one day before the papers went to
> Science stating it is very rare to find his AIDS virus in AIDS
> patients. < <http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/%3EHere>http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/>Here<http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/%3EHere>
> .
>
> Letter to the Nobel
>  Foundation<
> <http://www.sparks-of-light.org/Letter%20to%20the%20Nobel%20Foundation.pdf>
> http://www.sparks-of-light.org/Letter%20to%20the%20Nobel%20Foundation.pdf>.
>
> Here.
>
> Semmelweis Press Release.
>  < <http://www.sparks-of-light.org/SemmelweispressreleaseScience.pdf>
> http://www.sparks-of-light.org/SemmelweispressreleaseScience.pdf >Here.
>
> Brief Bio on Author.
>
> Janine Roberts has written on medical, human rights and environmental
> matters for over 30 years. Her work has appeared in the Melbourne Age
> (Australia), the Independent (UK), the Financial Times and numerous
> other papers and magazines. Her investigative documentary films have
> been shown on the BBC, the PBS network in North America and the ABC
> in Australia.
>
> US Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney said of her: "Janine Roberts is the
> rare individual who unflinchingly speaks truth to power. She battles
> her way past all the obstacles and provides us with a glimpse of
> those who are in the innermost circles of global power. She exposes
> what they do and how they do it and how it comes to hurt us all. She
> gave testimony for me at a Hearing in Congress that was shocking in
> its revelations but thorough in its documentation." This testimony
> was on human rights in Africa.
>
> Her books include "< <http://www.sparkle.plus.com/%3EGlitter>
> http://www.sparkle.plus.com/>Glitter<http://www.sparkle.plus.com/%3EGlitter>and Greed,"
> reviewed by the literary editor of the Independent, Boyd Tonkin, as
> "Formidably well researched and widely sourced account and damning
> exposure of the international diamond trade. Her gripping book for
> once merits the epithet 'brilliant.' Its latest edition takes us
> inside De Beers' diamond mines in South Africa to discover that
> several of them are highly contaminated with asbestos fibres, as
> these can naturally occur in the same rocks, with the miners
> reporting they are given very little protection. When 200 miners were
> tested from the Premier Mine, every one of them had asbestosis - yet
> De Beers had declared safe the dust in its mines. This is based on
> previously unpublished medical and governmental reports. Her film
> "The Diamond Empire" helped to start the movement against blood diamonds.
>
> She has also authored a number of books on the treatment of
> Aborigines in Australia.
>
> Her new investigation is the well-documented and paradigm-changing
> book "< <http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/%3EFear>
> http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/>Fear<http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/%3EFear>of the Invisible"
>
> ISBN 9780955917721 Published by Impact Investigative Media
> Productions
> < <[log in to unmask]> mailto:[log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]>>[log in to unmask]<info%40fearoftheinvisible.com>
>
> Link to book in the US
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>
>  <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0955917727/wellwithinA/> Link to
> book in the UK
>
>  <
> <http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0955917727/wellwithin-21/202-2017433-62>
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>
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>
>
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