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Oh, that's right!  I hadn't thought of that.  We didn't feed silage.  We ground the corn (ears) after feeding the stalks in the summer and early fall.  The ground corn was then mixed with -- what? -- molasses and...something else.  The horses were fed roasted garlic mixed with their grain a few hours before the tax inspector was due to visit the barn.  They never stayed long...

Louis G
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Eric Entemann 
  To: [log in to unmask] 
  Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 6:37 AM
  Subject: Re: Marx, Redux (Well, Sort of...)


  Your holsteins must have been unusually polite.  I saw one defecate on an inspector who happened to be sitting behind her taking notes on a clipboard.  Accompanied by a loud belch, if I recall correctly...

  And they did love that silage, which contained a not-insignificant amount of ethanol.


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  Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 18:24:54 -0500
  From: [log in to unmask]
  Subject: Re: Marx, Redux (Well, Sort of...)
  To: [log in to unmask]


  Well, I grew up on a farm with holsteins, which I take are fairly typical for cows, and I don't think I ever heard one belch.  And 500 litres would demand a great deal of belching.  Perhaps the feed nowadays is richer; ours were fed corn meal, molassas and alfalfa.

  Louis G
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Eric Entemann 
    To: [log in to unmask] 
    Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:35 PM
    Subject: Re: Marx, Redux (Well, Sort of...)


    "Cattle are capable of producing 500 litres of the potent greenhouse gas every day, mostly through belching. * Researchers at the Rowett Research Institute have found a way of cutting back on the methane produced by ruminants like sheep and cows."
     
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4582174.stm
     
    * the energy equivalent of about one-sixth of a gallon of gasoline

    > Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:12:47 -0500
    > From: [log in to unmask]
    > Subject: Re: Marx, Redux (Well, Sort of...)
    > To: [log in to unmask]
    > 
    > Not quite right Louis. There are environmentalists who open up new 
    > possibilities for capitalism and there are those who in the spirit of 
    > Marx show the connection between the current sources of destruction of 
    > the environment in capitalism and also show that degradation of the 
    > environment is one more form of class oppression. You have a very ugly 
    > view of the working class Louis as your comment on Claudia's post 
    > exhibited. I am offended; my class brothers have given leadership to 
    > many struggles that you consider to be intrinsically the domain of 
    > "intellectuals." [Could it be that you are not yourself of the working 
    > class and your attack stems from intellectual self-hate?]
    > 
    > Being concerned about massive cow farting is only partly an attack on 
    > "industrial" capitalism, since agricultural workers and small farmers 
    > are also tied to the production of cow meat. In addition, your quote 
    > ignores the tight connection between finance capital and industrial 
    > capital. In any historical period there is but one capitalism thoroughly 
    > linked.
    > herb
    > 
    > Louis R Godena wrote:
    > >
    > > "One of the great failings of the left has been that rather than 
    > > challenge the main trend of capitalism, they have reinforced it. At a 
    > > time when capitalism has retreated from production, the radicals’ main 
    > > demand is that they retreat further. And here it is the ideology of 
    > > environmentalism that has done the most damage. The environmentalists 
    > > think that they are anti-capitalists. But they are not. At best what 
    > > they are doing is attacking industrial capitalism."
    > >
    > > http://www.platypus1917.org/archive/article135/
    > >




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