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So two safety considerations are a beacon and a Recco reflector. Do  
patrollers usually look for a beacon if there's no companion to tell  
them that the lost skier was carrying one?
	Matt


On Dec 15, 2008, at 1:55 PM, Chris Henry wrote:

> It was mentioned in the firsttracks article that Recco detectors were
> used in the search, though it's not clear from the article if that was
> part of the initial search or part of the continued effort to verify
> there weren't other caught.  Supposedly one of Reccos strengths is
> that it can speed up the location of victims.  People have mentioned
> carrying a probe in-bounds, which as others have pointed out is great,
> assuming everyone else has one along with a probe and shovel.  Since
> Recco claims that many North American ski resorts are now equipped
> with Recco detectors, conventional wisdom would suggest that this
> might be more effect.
>
> Unfortunately I've never worked on ski patrol and I don't know squat
> about Recco, other than that my jacket is supposed to be equipped with
> a reflector.   I also can't recall any information on a single
> avalanche survivor being recovered in NA by a resort using Recco.
> Traditionally in forums such as this list Recco is seen as a
> technology that's better at recovering dead bodies, rather than
> rescuing live ones.  Does anyone know if that's changing over time?
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Dylan Gamache
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Here's the local scoop from my friend Liz who lives there and was  
>> there yesterday......
>>
>> "I was boarding the tram when it hit - on my way to ski baldy!!! I  
>> truly have never seen mayhem like what followed on the tram deck.  
>> ski patrol was rounding up everyone with backcountry gear to get on  
>> the tram and help search. they imediately closed that side of the  
>> mountain. there were probably 150 people probing. she was buried  
>> for an hour before she was found. only 27 years old. to be honest I  
>> think we are lucky only one person died. there were a ton of people  
>> at the top of baldy ready to go when it slid. definitely a reminder  
>> to wear a beacon even inbounds on a powder day."
>>
>> We usually wear beacon every day in or out of bounds. The problem  
>> with that is few will carry shovel and probes on in bounds days. I  
>> guess we are hoping if we get burried in bounds that others will be  
>> able to get us out. I think when I'm out there in a few weeks I'll  
>> be skiing with everything since the snow pack seems to be crap this  
>> year due to that early season dumping.
>>
>> Dylan
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Leigh Daboll
>> Sender: Vermont Skiing Discussion and Vermont Skiing Discussion and  
>> Snow Reports
>> To: Vermont Skiing Discussion and Vermont Skiing Discussion and  
>> Snow Reports
>> ReplyTo: Vermont Skiing Discussion and Vermont Skiing Discussion  
>> and Snow Reports
>> Subject: Re: [SKIVT-L] Snowbird Avi with sad ending
>> Sent: Dec 15, 2008 12:34 PM
>>
>> Yep, that line is right under the lift into BSB
>>
>> In fact, Briar and I skied almost that exact line 24 hours earlier  
>> on one of the opening day's first chairs and it appeared pretty  
>> bomb proof despite a lack of skier consolidation.
>>
>> Makes you think about wearing inbounds avi gear for sure....
>>
>> Leigh
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Matthew Kulas
>> Sender:
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> ReplyTo: Vermont Skiing Discussion and Snow Reports
>> Sent: Dec 15, 2008 9:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [SKIVT-L] Snowbird Avi with sad ending
>>
>> There was also a sizable in-bounds avalanche at Vail (Blue Sky Basin)
>> yesterday: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/18277214/detail.html
>> The skier was a TGR forum member and was unhurt.
>>
>> --Matt K.
>>
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