I'm happy with 79mm and 81mm.  I skied with ease in waist to chest deep 6 weeks ago on all sorts of terrain including tight trees.  My BD Miras are also 188cm long - elegant on a powder day on the Sherburne!

That's the fattest I've ever skied on, so perhaps I dunno' what I'm missing.  Would I miss the face shots if I skied on wider skis which would put me on the surface of the untracked rather than in the snow?  I wouldn't like that ........ nothing like having freshies billow into your torso.

I guess I'm just a whose, ya' know.

Plus, with my skis I can be reasonably proficient with 3 seemingly overlooked skills REQUIRED for skiing in the b/c - snowplowing, sideslipping and kick turns.  Yes, those seemingly simple tools are needed in your bag o' tricks when exploring the off-piste.  Could I do those compulsory tasks with 100mm+ wide boards?  Dunno'.

Sorry, I just cannot proficiently ski in the back seat with my hands behind me so that from a side view I look like I'm scratching my rectum simultaneously with both pole handles.  That's one ski technique/style that I just cannot seem to grasp.  Darn.  Maybe if I got some fat 120mm wide boards, I can pull that off.
Mark P. Renson 

From: roger Klinger <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 4:40:33 PM
Subject: [SKIVT-L] What's Fat?

On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Allen Taylor <[log in to unmask]> wrote: 

"Any ski that has a waist of over 70mm will have very good float in powder"
I completely disagree with this. By today's standards 70mm is
basically a Nordic ski. There is a huge difference between a 70mm
waist and even a 100mm waisted midfat let alone a 130mm+ waisted
powder ski when it comes to float.
I'm not going to disagree with anything Allen wrote.  I just want to know when 100mm started to be considered midfat?  IIRC, the gear issues this fall were calling 80-90 mm waists mdfats.
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