I've had similar experiences with Flip Cameras Mino (in general).    As a
result, I have set some requirements before a Flip Camera can be signed
out. 1)  having both the person being "video certified"  and 2)  the
hardware they will be using becoming "video certified".  That means we have
tested the Flip Camera on that hardware.  I found that once I used the Flip
software once (in admin mode) on the system to 'save a video"  the system
inherits the correct codec, so that future avi files copied from the flip
seem to work in movie maker (this was not the ULTRA though). Once I know
which computer they plan to use and know that the necessary codec are on
that machine, movie maker usually works fine (even when not in admin mode)

Video certified "person"  is basically someone who has reviewed with me
some basic information that anyone should have when signing out a FLIP,
ranging from copyright,  scope of the project, and other items such as
Privacy concerns using the FLIP.
When I was doing FLIP training this summer, I learned that the feature on
FLIP software that says "email video"  looks secure,  and emails the
participant an email link to a page that says "private viewing" -- however,
that link is NOT private and can be linked on any website and the code can
be embedded anywhere (including myspace).  I wanted to make sure that
teachers understood the "upload to youtube features" as well as the "email
link" feature when they send a student off with a FLIP camera for a
Scope of the project was also important, since the FLIP is so easy to point
and shoot, beginners where trying to make movies that were an hour long.

I also don't like that the FLIP software allows you to rename pictures and
folders (that are not actually) being renamed.  Some teachers would take
hours to name clips and organize their clips in folders, but when they
decided to move the project over to Movie Maker because they want more
features (the renaming of files and folders does not follow the files).  The
renaming within the Flip software is really just a pointer.  ARRGH.. for
this reason I tend to have people go straight to movie maker and not bother
with the Flip software.

Here is my Flip Video Training Page.  Feel free to use anything on here.


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Melissa Hayden-Raley
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> Has anyone used the Flip Ultra 120 at their schools yet?  We purchased two
> dozen over the summer for our schools, as the four 30-minute cameras that
> we had for signout last year were extremely popular.  However, these 120s
> are NOT as friendly.
> My primary complaint is that the software requires admin privileges to
> install.  This isn't to load drivers or add hardware, this is just
> software to edit clips.  I decided to install it on my own laptop to see
> what it's doing... it does a simulataneous login as the local system
> account to install itself.  Not only that, but it inexplicably loaded the
> System account desktop (?!) which for the average teacher is going to be
> quite the WTF moment.  I've had a couple of teachers report to me that
> once they get past the installation, when the software tries to save an
> edited file, it will simply hang partway through, with an ominous "do not
> unplug the device!!" message.
> So far, these have been nothing but a frustration.  As an alternative to
> temporarily assigning admin privs and walking through a crazy installation
> just to use iffy software, the only other choice I've found is to walk
> them through locating their video file (mp4) on the camera and running it
> through a converter so that they can use Windows Movie Maker, which
> everyone already has.
> Am I the only having a tough time with these?  Does someone who's been
> using them for longer have some words of wisdom?
> Melissa Hayden-Raley
> IT Technician
> Milton Town School District
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