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fully agree. pay your dues. get out there, hike around in summer, poke around in winter. gotta put in the time to appreciate. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Justin Woods <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:02:33 -0500, Brian Waters <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > >I think I should chime in here, given the epic flame war that I started > here > >almost two years ago, on a similar topic (I'm still traumatized)... > > Don't give yourself too much credit, Brian -- though you may have busted > your cherry on > that, you weren't our first, and sorry to say, it was far from epic. But > yes, this topic has > been thrashed about. Obviously, it's still a hot-button issue. > > >Secondly, I'd like the take the opportunity to once again express the > >disappointment that I feel that a bunch of skiers like us can't just share > >some fun-finding information with each other. I wish some of you guys > >thought more like skiers out west. > > We do indeed share information. Loads of it. It seems, however, that the > preferred > method for many of us is face-to-face, ski-to-ski. A little discretion, if > you please. > > >At any rate, I enjoy your posts, Jay. Keep up the good work, just try not > to > >piss anyone off. > > And that's what makes this polemic so... interesting? I feel that Jay's > contributions are > most excellent, and his dedication to them and to the historical data are > incredibly > important. That is why it bums me out to see this original post. No, the > Monroe trail is > not such a secret stash -- but you could see this thread coming from the > onset (as clearly > as you could see WWalker's line through the trees -- ouch). > > See, there's a bigger question: have you earned it? > > There are lots of ways to earn it, and everyone who reads this and can > slide on snow has > the potential to do it. Here are six steps to success in the BC -- with > all due respect to > the BC community -- as I see it: > > 1. Pay your dues. > 2. Pay some more. > 3. Pay even more than you thought possible -- shwip shwap up the nose, > hours of > slogging back up after getting cliffed-out, impenetrable thickets, water > bars, broken gear, > wrong skis, wrong wax, wrong snow, wrong timing -- sweat and blood, sweat > and blood - > - (that is how we learn, no?!) > 4. Finally, receive the sweet reward. > 5. Pass it on **in person**. > 6. Repeat steps 1-5 in no particular order. > > Skipping steps 1-3 seems so cheap to me -- it's like learning to tele with > plastic boots. > > And no, most people don't make it past step one, nor are they likely to > swarm the north > side of the Rump on Saturday. But then, I never thought the parking "lot" > at the TD > would be full to capacity by 7 AM on the weekend. > > > As you were, > justin > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > SkiVt-L is brought to you by the University of Vermont. > > To unsubscribe, visit http://list.uvm.edu/archives/skivt-l.html > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SkiVt-L is brought to you by the University of Vermont. To unsubscribe, visit http://list.uvm.edu/archives/skivt-l.html