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fully agree.  pay your dues.  get out there, hike around in summer, poke
around in winter.  gotta put in the time to appreciate.


On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Justin Woods <[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:02:33 -0500, Brian Waters <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> >I think I should chime in here, given the epic flame war that I started
> here
> >almost two years ago, on a similar topic (I'm still traumatized)...
>
> Don't give yourself too much credit, Brian -- though you may have busted
> your cherry on
> that, you weren't our first, and sorry to say, it was far from epic.  But
> yes, this topic has
> been thrashed about.  Obviously, it's still a hot-button issue.
>
> >Secondly, I'd like the take the opportunity to once again express the
> >disappointment that I feel that a bunch of skiers like us can't just share
> >some fun-finding information with each other. I wish some of you guys
> >thought more like skiers out west.
>
> We do indeed share information.  Loads of it.  It seems, however, that the
> preferred
> method for many of us is face-to-face, ski-to-ski.  A little discretion, if
> you please.
>
> >At any rate, I enjoy your posts, Jay. Keep up the good work, just try not
> to
> >piss anyone off.
>
> And that's what makes this polemic so... interesting?  I feel that Jay's
> contributions are
> most excellent, and his dedication to them and to the historical data are
> incredibly
> important.  That is why it bums me out to see this original post.  No, the
> Monroe trail is
> not such a secret stash -- but you could see this thread coming from the
> onset (as clearly
> as you could see WWalker's line through the trees -- ouch).
>
> See, there's a bigger question: have you earned it?
>
> There are lots of ways to earn it, and everyone who reads this and can
> slide on snow has
> the potential to do it.  Here are six steps to success in the BC -- with
> all due respect to
> the BC community -- as I see it:
>
> 1.  Pay your dues.
> 2.  Pay some more.
> 3.  Pay even more than you thought possible -- shwip shwap up the nose,
> hours of
> slogging back up after getting cliffed-out, impenetrable thickets, water
> bars, broken gear,
> wrong skis, wrong wax, wrong snow, wrong timing -- sweat and blood, sweat
> and blood -
> - (that is how we learn, no?!)
> 4.  Finally, receive the sweet reward.
> 5.  Pass it on **in person**.
> 6.  Repeat steps 1-5 in no particular order.
>
> Skipping steps 1-3 seems so cheap to me -- it's like learning to tele with
> plastic boots.
>
> And no, most people don't make it past step one, nor are they likely to
> swarm the north
> side of the Rump on Saturday.  But then, I never thought the parking "lot"
> at the TD
> would be full to capacity by 7 AM on the weekend.
>
>
> As you were,
> justin
>
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