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Sure a sliding scale would be great, but I'm sorry Robert - I'd have to agree with Jane & Malcolm. While your logic might make sense in a Utopian society - we live in the real world. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2010, at 9:46 PM, "Robert Riversong" <[log in to unmask] > wrote: > Don't even go there. That's the most exquisite rationalization for > charging fees for information - and often high fees, since the > corollary is that which costs more is more valued. > > The truth is that people value that which improves their lives, > including many things we would not (at least not most of us) even > think of charging for, such as friendship, companionship, empathy, > physical intimacy and sex, mentoring a child, assisting the elderly > or comforting the dying. > > The measure of a healthy and sustainable society is one in which the > most valuable services are part of a gift economy and the rest is > bartered. > > --- On Tue, 3/9/10, Jane Griswold <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > From: Jane Griswold <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: BSR - VT Solar Hot Water Workshops 2010 Series! > To: [log in to unmask] > Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 8:35 PM > > people value more what costs them money - I charge for a > consultation because the money makes the client pays attention to > what I say - same with seminars > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Malcolm Gray <[log in to unmask] > > wrote: > It costs to formulate and present, reasonable price for the > information. still live in capitalism. Malcolm/Montpelier Construction > On Mar 9, 2010, at 4:32 PM, Robert Riversong wrote: > >> If you really wanted to promulgate solar options, you'd make these >> workshops free. Those of us who are most interested in lower impact >> options are the ones least able to pay such fees. >> >> --- On Tue, 3/9/10, hillary haselton <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >> From: hillary haselton <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: BSR - VT Solar Hot Water Workshops 2010 Series! >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 2:29 PM >> >> For those interested! >> >> >> >> Solar Hot Water – Workshops – 2010 Series >> >> What: Building for Social Responsibility (BSR) is proud to present >> the 2010 workshop series on domestic solar hot water and space >> heating. From March 20th, 2010 through October 16th, 2010 workshops >> are available across the state. These courses are recognized by >> Renewable Energy of Vermont (REV) as credits towards applying for >> Solar Thermal Partnership. Learn how to design, install and >> maintain solar thermal domestic hot water and space heating systems >> for Vermont climate! >> >> When/Where: All workshops run 8am -5pm and include lunch. >> SHW Day 1 -- March 20th Burlington, VT @Vermont >> Energy Investment Corp >> SHW Day 2 -- April 3rd Montpelier, VT @ City Hall >> SHW Day 1 -- May 15th Brattleboro, VT @ BuildingGreen, >> LLC >> SHW Day 2 -- June 24th White River Junction, VT Vermont @ >> groSolar >> SHW Day 1 -- July 7th Montpelier, VT @ City Hall >> SHW Day 2 -- August 5th Burlington, VT @ Vermont Energy >> Investment Corp >> SHW Day 1 -- September 18th Manchester, VT @ r.k. Miles >> SHW Day 2 -- October 21th Middlebury, VT @ tbd >> >> * Renewable Energy Vermont (REV) Solar Thermal Partnership approved >> training course. See details below for more information. >> >> Who: These workshops are intended for: >> - Builders who want to encourage their clients to include solar >> hot water in their building and remodeling projects; >> - Plumbing and heating contractors who want to learn the >> specifics of solar installations for domestic hot water and heating >> systems; >> - Anyone interested in expanding their knowledge of a >> sophisticated renewable technology. >> Cost: $285 One Day, $450 Two Days, $45 Discount to BSR Members. $40 >> Early Registration Discount (2 weeks prior to workshop date) >> Contact BSR for information on plumber discounts. >> >> Details: This course is recognized by REV. Licensed plumbers who >> attend a 8hr workshop will be eligible to apply for "REV Solar >> Thermal Provisional partnership". Full Solar Partnership is awarded >> to Provisional Partners who complete a dw systems with REV >> oversight. Non-licensed plumbing professionals attending both >> workshops will receive 16 hours of credit towards eligibility. >> Solar Thermal Partnership is required to access Vermont renewable >> energy incentives. >> >> Why Solar Hot Water (SHW)? >> SHW the hottest growing green industries in an exploding green >> marketplace. >> SHW is easily incorporated into building plans and installed on >> existing homes. >> SHW is the least expensive renewable energy system. >> SHW has the #1 Return on the Investment (ROI) for the homeowner. >> SHW makes economic sense. >> >> Workshop Benefits: >> Learn how to design, install and maintain solar thermal domestic >> hot water and space heating systems for Vermonts climate! >> Achieve up to 16 hours of REV approved training credits towards >> gaining Solar Partnership. >> Start connecting to federal and state incentives that offer up to >> 60% off the total installation cost of these systems. >> Create contacts and network with supplies, like minded builders and >> plumbers. >> Gain firsthand knowledge from presenter Michael Horowitz who brings >> 25 years of expert experience to the podium. >> >> Workshop Outlines: >> Day 1 >> Introduction to Solar Domestic Hot Water and Solar Space Heating >> Systems appropriate for Vermonts Climate >> Domestic Solar Hot Water Component Details >> Siting, Sizing and Design of DSHW >> Installation & Maintenance for DSHW >> Economic Payback Overview & Marketing Strategies for Solar Hot Water >> Overview of Federal & State Incentives and the Renewable Energy >> Vermont Solar Partnership Application >> >> Day 2 >> Solar Space Heating Design Details Including Passive Solar and >> Active Solar Sources. >> Advanced System Components for DSHW and Solar Space Heating Systems. >> Troubleshooting for all Solar Systems and Common Components >> Maintenance Concerns. >> Introduction to Solar Mathematics for siting and sizing systems. >> Solar Hot Water Marketing and Economic Paybacks Plus Incentives. >> Lunch will be provided for all attendees during which networking >> will be encouraged and access to our sponsors resources will be >> available. >> >> Hosted By: Building for Social Responsibility, VT Chapter of >> Northeast Sustainable Energy Association. >> Sponsored by: Sunward, groSolar, Vermont Sustainable Jobs Fund and >> BuildingGreen, LLC >> >> To sign up: Contact Hillary @ 802.825.5957, email [log in to unmask] >> or visit www.bsr-vt.org. >> >> Reserve now while space is available! >> Building For Social Responsibility >> P.O. 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