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I respectfully disagree..... registries matter not in the real world ... please see Mike Allen's post, as he is dead on




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From: Nathalie Garbani <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 10:26:27 PM
Subject: Re: recertification & CME's

  
This is a start in the right direction Marie and 
how we should look at it. Any process will have to go through fine tuning. 
So, yes, I would support hands-on practicum 
too.
 
Nathalie
NSU
----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Marie 
>  Sacco 
>To: [log in to unmask] 
>Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:44 
>AM
>Subject: Re: recertification & 
>  CME's
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>while I am all for "improvement" if the idea is to be sure you are doing 
>  hands on..... please explain why you think this is such a great idea after all 
>  CMEs have provided for "book learning" for quite awhile
> I am not a 
>  vascular surgeon... I would expect someone piecing people together should be 
>  held to a higher standard (no disrespect)
>
>Free is not the issue, the 
>  issue is what they are saying is the reason, doesn't support the way they are 
>  doing this
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 From: Nathalie Garbani 
>  <[log in to unmask]>
>To: >  [log in to unmask]
>Sent: >  Thu, May 20, 2010 9:37:14 PM
>Subject: Re: recertification & 
>  CME's
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>Ann Marie and Dr Schneider, thank you for your 
>  comments.
>As an educator I strongly support any initiative 
>  that will help our profession to move toward more accountability and better 
>  quality. 
>1 hour or less every 10 years! Free! what is the 
>  big deal, and as Ann Marie said, yes you learn a lot with an open book (at 
>  least it makes you read the book once!)
> 
>Let's support this and help make it even better 
>  rather than fight it for very poor reasons.
> 
>Nathalie
>NSU
>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: Ann Marie Kupinski 
>>To: [log in to unmask] 
>>Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:50 
>>    AM
>>Subject: Re: recertification & 
>>    CME's
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>>Dr. Schneider your 
>>    comments are well said.  I believe the ARDMS has put together a very 
>>    easy and virtually no cost process (if you pass on the first time). 
>>     Probably the best way to insure continued competency would be to 
>>    directly supervise people scanning but obviously that is not a practical 
>>    option.  Even though it is open book, you will learn or at least 
>>    refresh your memory if you must get help for an answer from a 
>>    textbook.  The fact that the exam is only once every 10 years means 
>>    that some of us may only need to take it once and even younger techs may 
>>    only have to take it 3 times.  I don’t see the big deal.  I wish 
>>    every test that I had taken was open book, in the comfort of my own home and 
>>    free!
>> 
>>Medical 
>>    professionals face recertification examinations.  As Dr. Schneider say, 
>>    it is here to stay.  
>> 
>>Bottom line, be 
>>    proud of your accomplishments and skills.  Demonstrate this by 
>>    maintaining your individual credential.  Patients do like it when you 
>>    tell them you are credentialed.  Of course, insurance companies, etc., 
>>    may require things but I believe it honestly comes down to you as an 
>>    individual.   Being credentialed should be your own internal 
>>    affirmation about what you are doing. 
>> 
>>Ann Marie Kupinski 
>> 
>> 
>>
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>>From:UVM 
>>    Flownet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Schneider, Joseph 
>>    R.
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 
>>    2010 9:55 PM
>>To: >>    [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: recertification & 
>>    CME's
>> 
>>Just for a little 
>>    perspective, diplomates of the American Board of Surgery have had to 
>>    recertify every 10 years beginning I think in 1975, until recently we 
>>    vascular surgeons had to recertify in general surgery as well as vascular 
>>    surgery,  and now we have MOC (maintenance of certification) requiring 
>>    a fair amount of stuff that has to be done every THIRD year in adition to 
>>    taking a secure test every 10 years, something now required I think of every 
>>    specialty in the US.  No one has ever been able to show that inital 
>>    certification, let alone recertification improves outcomes, but the concept 
>>    has face validity and it would be difficult to test. It certainly implies 
>>    some level of commitment on the part of the owner.  I would 
>>    respectfully suggest that it's here to stay and it would be best to stop 
>>    fighting it and get on top of it to distinguish yourself from the 
>>    competition.  When the steamroller comes through, if you're not on the 
>>    steamroller you'll be part of the road.
>> 
>>The fees are an issue and I 
>>    agree that the ARDMS Board is the place to address that. There are many 
>>    astute professionals contriubiting to this list and I think you should get 
>>    on the ARDMS Board!
>> 
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