SB is working to tame the aggressive nature of our web content filters.
So, we're working to focus more blocking sites on a block list and less
on phrases, words, and weighted lists (we're not there yet, but progress
is being made) so this move isn't going to worry us much.  Supervision
is key.  

Unless Google starts acting as a proxy, does it really matter if we see
the actual search phrase and the results?  In the end we still see the
page hit or the blocked notification from a banned page.  All we will
lose is clearly showing intent to parents in a meeting, but unless we
actually see the student at the keyboard can we prove it was student A
and not student B hijacking student A's account?  Supervision is key.

Craig is absolutely right, filters can lead to sloppy supervision and a
false sense of security.  Supervision is key.

I think this year has been incredibly light on porn surfing and hacking
and heavy on attempts to use Facebook (this is only an observation and I
have no data to back it up)  It's almost like the students have better
things to do than look at naked people... what is wrong with kids these


Michael Vining, SB IT Support
South Burlington School District
South Burlington, Vermont 05403

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-----Original Message-----
From: School Information Technology Discussion
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Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 7:33 PM
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Subject: Google encrypted search results

Yesterday Lucie was reading to me some postings from one of her Google
lists.  In this post was a story of a large school district out west
the network admins had blocked because the search engine
provider has allowed people to encrypt their searches.

To see for yourself try

Both what you are searching for and the results are encrypted, no one
snoop on you (unless they are in the room and can see your screen).

This school district had immediately come to the conclusion that they
could no longer control where the students went on the Internet.  I am
amazed, you still can't visit any sites that are on the web filter's
blocked lists.  You just see the results that point to those sites.  The
fallout is that no one could use any Google tools, could not log into
gmail or any Google Domains for Education, could not access Google docs.

I remember years ago when we were first talking about filtering when I
said it would be a slippery slope.  Once an institution became addicted
the false sense of security that these software programs provide there
would be no turning back.  Adult supervision would  become sloppy and
people would get into the habit of treating the Internet callously and
without the respect and caution that a field trip into cyberspace

When we were discussing this event at our last network admins meeting at
FCSU one of the other admins (the young one who doesn't use Linux GUI's
command line only) opined that allowing thumbnail pictures and leading
sentences from an ill formed search could shock a younger student.  Thus
pointing out that my contention that the only real use for a filter is
prevent a student from stumbling onto in appropriate material
is brought into question by this change in practice by Google.  I had to
admit he was right, but allowed that if you had as one of your home
the unencrypted google then the student would have to intentionally
the encrypted address, so then it could not be accidental.

Anyway - Is anyone out there concerned about this?  Is anyone planning
doing anything in response to this change by Google?  How many people
are actively scanning people's search results for forbidden content?
anyone have any opinion on the actions of the Western school district
would rather destroy all of the tools Google makes available than allow
people to search without their supervision?

Yeah - long day, can't wait for school to be over and things to settle

Craig Lynde's

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