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One adult and one juvenile standing side by side a few feet from the open water as I kayaked in Bristol pond. would have been great footage but alas, no camera. Mark Paul _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3