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Yup, bacteriophages was what I should have written.

Mitchel (supporting the phage theory of history) ....


-----Original Message-----
>From: Stuart Newman <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Sep 6, 2010 5:34 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Phage Therapy
>
>There is a confusion here, Mitchel.  Marcophages are cells of the animal 
>(e.g., human) immune system which scavenge debris, including bacteria 
>that have been killed by antibiotics or are bound to antibodies produced 
>by plasma cells.  They are entirely different from bacteriophages, which 
>are viruses directed against bacteria and not endogenous to the immune 
>system.  Bacteriophage therapy was what the character Arrowsmith was 
>studying, what the Russians greatly advanced, and what is attracting 
>increasing interest from mainstream medical science, e.g., 
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20810181  
>
>On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 12:57:14 -0400, Mitchel Cohen 
><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
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>id="compText">As I learned and posted 6 months ago, the Soviet Union 
>used macrophages (not sure how those differ from regular phages) 
>extensively in place of antibiotics. I questioned at the time whether 
>these might not be useful against the new breeds of antibiotic-resistant 
>bacteria.<br><br>Mitchel<br><br><br><br><blockquote 
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>><br>From: Michael Balter <[log in to unmask]>
>><br>Sent: Sep 6, 2010 7:55 AM
>><br>To: [log in to unmask]
>><br>Subject: Re: Phage Therapy
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>><br><br>Phages, of course, are not imaginary, but have been 
>visualized many times in the electron 
>microscope:<div><br></div><div><a target="_blank" 
>href="http://www.biochem.wisc.edu/faculty/inman/empics/virus.htm">htt
>p://www.biochem.wisc.edu/faculty/inman/empics/virus.htm</a></div>
>>
>><div><br></div><div>Jim West doesn't think that HIV has ever 
>been "isolated" either, following the absurd claims of the so-called Perth 
>group, but science says otherwise.</div><div><br></div><div>We 
>had a discussion of phage therapy a year or two ago, as some may 
>recall, when Mitchel posted something about it. It seems that they 
>might have some limited therapeutic use but the jury is out on how 
>much.</div>
>>
>><div><br></div><div>MB</div><div><br><div 
>class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Jim West <span 
>dir="ltr">&lt;<a target="_blank" 
>href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</spa
>n> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 
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>>
>>Phage therapy is founded on laboratory observations in petri dishes, of 
>sterile<br>
>>zones within bacterial cultures. &nbsp; Twort, d'Herelle, and others 
>observed this<br>
>>phenomena around 1915 and 1917. &nbsp;They never isolated the 
>imagined phages, nor<br>
>>did they discount the obvious underlying toxicology of these 
>observations.<br>
>><br>
>>The therapy is promoted here:<br>
>><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phage_therapy" 
>target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phage_therapy</a><br>
>><br>
>>Jim West<br>
>><a href="http://harpub.co.cc" 
>target="_blank">http://harpub.co.cc</a><br>
>><br>
>>=====<br>
>>On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 09:35:21 +0200, Mandi Smallhorne<br>
>><a target="_blank" 
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>gt; wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>I had never heard of phage therapy until recently. From what little I've 
>found out<br>
>>- and that is very little indeed - it seems worth pursuing. Does anyone 
>know if<br>
>>serious research is being done in this area?<br>
>><br>
>>Mandi<br>
>></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- 
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>><br>"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask 
>why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist." -- Hélder Pessoa 
>Câmara<br>
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