Thanks for clarifying your thinking Greg.  This kind of thing is way outside anything I would do, I get nervous sometimes skiing trees 3 or 4 miles in.

I also wouldn't expect either of you to fall, but sometimes gear does break.

I'm looking forward to the next tour.

Mike

On Feb 8, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Greg Petrics wrote:

I'll put it this way.

If the rope or anchor snapped in a freak accident, we were dead, and a rescue would have been a Popsicle retrieval. So we weren't really considering that since that sort of worry if pondered too long will keep anyone on the couch. With the number of climbers and other backcountry travelers who access the surrounding terrain regularly, we weren't putting ourselves in harms way by assuming this risk any more than numerous other users.

For some other non life threatening "who-knows-how" injury, it wouldn't been too tough to manage with a party of two as is usually done by say, an ice climbing party of two. An anchor could have been built nearly anywhere given our gear, and the person loaded (albeit painfully), on rappel, and then fireman lowered by the other party member until they were down to an elevation that was nontechnical. At that point the noninjured could either phone in a sled to haul off the injured, or gone to a point where a land line was accessible, and given location details. This is in line with most opinions of what is a responsible level of preparation for self rescue.

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Michael Taub <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I was thinking about this and wondering about doing this with just 2 people.  I've always thought three was a good number in case someone gets hurt.  However, the more I thought about it, if someone got hurt in there, 2 or 3 people wouldn't make that much difference. The rescue would be tough.

Or did you figure you could use the Burton method and call for help with the cell phone?

Mike


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