The announcement by a press conference
of a result that has not yet been peer reviewed is not advisable.
Those who would generally discredit science in the minds of the
general population understand the scientific process so
poorly that they will be sure to use this to further discredit the
authority of science. "After all even the scientists don't agree."
Or "Science is all theory unlike God who is all truth."
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Faster-Than-Light Neutrinos? Physics Luminaries Voice
Doubts
We asked a number of physicists for their reaction
to the announcement of neutrinos breaking the
cosmic speed limit
By John Matson |
September 26, 2011
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=ftl-neutrinos
A few dozen nanoseconds, an imperceptibly slim interval
in everyday life, can make all the difference in
experimental physics. A European physics collaboration
made a stunning announcement September 23, after having
clocked elementary particles called neutrinos making the
underground journey from a lab in Switzerland to one in
Italy. The neutrinos made the trip 60 nanoseconds faster
than they would have traveling at light speed, the
researchers found. Faster, that is, than the rules of
physics as we understand them would allow.
If confirmed, the results from the OPERA (Oscillation
Project with Emulsion-tRacking Apparatus) collaboration
would be huge, a once-in-a-lifetime revolution in how we
understand the universe. But there are plenty of reasons
to believe that Albert Einstein's long-reigning theory
of relativity will survive this challenge, as it has
withstood so many in the past. (Read more about
challenges to relativity in this article.)
That is the opinion of a number of physicists we
contacted, many of them on Scientific American's board
of advisers. Their reactions to the OPERA announcement
appear below.
Astrophysicist and cosmologist Martin Rees of the
University of Cambridge
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary
evidence. I think it will be perceived in
retrospect as an embarrassment that this claim
received so much publicity-the inevitable
consequence of posting a preprint on the Web.
Neutrinos were observed from SN 1987A more or less
coincidentally with the explosion-not four years
earlier, as would have been the case if the
velocity difference had been the same as is now
claimed (though, of course, the energies of the
supernova neutrinos are much lower).
Theoretical physicist Steven Weinberg of the University
of Texas at Austin, winner of the 1979 Nobel Prize in
Physics
The report of this experiment is pretty impressive,
but it bothers me that there is plenty of evidence
that all sorts of other particles never travel
faster than light, while observations of neutrinos
are exceptionally difficult. It is as if someone
said that there are fairies in the bottom of their
garden, but they can only be seen on dark, foggy
nights.
Theoretical physicist Lawrence Krauss of Arizona State
University
It is an embarrassment as far as I am concerned. It
was not unreasonable for the experimentalists to
submit a paper with an unexplained result. But a
press conference on a result, which is extremely
unlikely to be correct, before the paper has been
refereed, is very unfortunate-for CERN and for
science. Once it is shown to be wrong, everyone
loses credibility. Neutrino experiments are hard,
and systematic errors at the limit of resolution
can be significant. Moreover, because the
experiment appears to violate Lorentz invariance,
which is at the heart of so much known physics, one
should be skeptical. One should be additionally
skeptical because observations of SN 1987A showed,
as I wrote in 1998, that neutrinos and photons
travel at the same speed to one part in a billion,
several orders of magnitude below the claimed
effect. Now, the only way out of that is to have
some energy-dependent effect, but all the ones that
make sense don't wash here.
Physicist and MINOS (Main Injector Neutrino Oscillation
Search) experiment co-spokesperson Jenny Thomas of
University College London
There must be a more mundane explanation for the
results. Let's hope we can find it.
Neutrino physicist Karsten Heeger of the University of
Wisconsin-Madison
I think it is fair to say that many of us are
stunned. This is an extraordinary result and we
cannot even perceive all the implications if this
result were true. All of modern physics as we know
and teach is based on Einstein's special and
general theories of relativity. If this effect were
shown to be true, I would consider this the physics
revolution of the century.
As an experimentalist, we are all very cautious of
such extraordinary results. I watched the Webcast
from CERN ... and was impressed by the detailed and
careful work presented by the OPERA collaboration
in their talk. However, even for a neutrino expert
it is difficult to follow and understand all the
technical details that enter this measurement.
There could be systematic effects that have not
been accounted for. Independent experimental tests
are needed.
Theoretical physicist Alexander Kusenko of the
University of California, Los Angeles
While this experimental group is very good and
competent, neutrino experiments are notoriously
difficult to perform. This experiment is
particularly ambitious. One has to wait for a
confirmation.
Neutrinos are fast, but science news travel faster!
Theoretical physicist Heinrich Pâs of the Technical
University Dortmund in Germany
It seems that the experimentalists were very
careful, but this is really BIG news....
There are certain misunderstandings with people who
are very cynical now: Even if true, this result
neither proves Einstein wrong nor implies that
causality has to be violated and time travel is
possible. Things can move faster than the speed of
light without violating Einstein if either the
speed of light is not the limiting velocity as one
can observe it for light propagation in media such
as, for example, water. This can be modeled with
background fields in the vacuum as has been
proposed by [Indiana University physicist] Alan
Kostelecky.
Or spacetime could be warped in a way so that
neutrinos can take a shortcut without really being
faster than the speed of light. As our three space
plus one time dimensions look pretty flat, this
would require an extra dimension (as proposed by
[University of Hawaii at Manoa physicist] Sandip
Pakvasa, [Vanderbilt University physicist] Tom
Weiler and myself).
On the other hand, if something moves faster than
the speed of light, causality violations-aka time
travel-may be a possibility (for example, in models
with two warped extra dimensions as proposed by
[Vanderbilt physicist] James Dent, Pakvasa, Weiler
and myself). And that, of course, would have really
crazy and mind-boggling consequences, but even
there can [there] be scenarios which are
contradictory.
So, in short, this is really exciting. But since it
is so exciting, I'm not sure whether one should be
too optimistic that it will survive the tests of
other experiments.
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