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Paddy, 

You're making assumptions (by saying "not indispensible"), by reading Mitch, 
but not my message he is referring to.  

I never said "not indispensible".  I think citrus is delicious and citrus is a major 
part of my diet.  I don't take pills, because ... read my message.

Jim West
NYC

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On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:59:01 -0000, Paddy Apling 
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>Not indispensible?!
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>Has Jim never heard of scurvy - the bane of the sailor a couple of centuries
>ago.
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>Paddy
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>http://apling.freeservers.com
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>From: Science for the People Discussion List
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mitchel Cohen
>Sent: 30 December 2011 6:07 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Agreed: Taking multi-vitamin pills 'does nothing for our
>health'
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>Hi Jim,
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>Well, not to invalidate your father's reaction to ascorbic acid. Different
>people no doubt have different reactions to every nutrient, which is why
>individual profiles are needed. (I know that individual profiles go against
>the "standard" one-shoe-fits-all approach of Western medicine, but even in
>Western medicine there have been significant shifts towards individualizing
>doses and kinds of nutrients -- pretty significant changes, actually, since
>that was one of the main arguments by corporate medicine against 
homeopathic
>approaches.)
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>For me, Vitamin C has been indispensable. I rarely get colds or the flu, and
>when I do I combine large hourly doses of Vitamin C and bioflavanoids (which
>are necessary to make the Vitamin C effective) with increased amounts of
>garlic, turmeric and the like. (I remember how people scoffed at me for
>putting a clove of garlic up my nose for an hour, removing it, and then
>putting another clove into the other nostril for an hour; but that, combined
>with the Vitamin C, was all it took to greatly reduce the severity and time
>of the flu, the 2 times I had in in the past 10 years. It was gone in hours.
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>Mitchel
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>At 10:03 AM 12/29/2011, Jim West wrote:
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>Phil, Thanks, and have a few things to add.
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>One unadvertised bit of info I realized last year, is that humans recycle
>"Vitamin
>C" (unlike other primates), and thus don't need a continuous supply.
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>My father has violent reactions when he tries to continue his Vit C megadose
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>program.  Apparently his body thinks ascorbic acid is toxic.
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>My experience with following the flu with Vit C, is a fever rise, as if the
>Vit C is
>toxic.
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>The human body uses super-oxidization to fend off certain (reductive) toxics
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>and microbes; Vit C might disable that capability.  Example:  Arsenic
>poisoning
>is facilitated by ascorbic acid supplements.
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>I still eat citrus etc., assuming that anti-oxidant capabilities are gained
>in a
>proper way thereby.  I still keep my eyes open for pro-vitamin C science, as
>it
>does make some intuitive sense, perhaps as an antidote for reductive toxics
>like heavy metals.
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>Jim West
>http://harpub.co.cc <http://harpub.co.cc/>
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>On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 00:05:31 -0600, Phil Gasper <[log in to unmask]>
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>Ring the bells that still can ring,  Forget your perfect offering.
>There is a crack, a crack in everything, That's how the light gets in.
>~ Leonard Cohen
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