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i actually think 'psychological science' including of this sort are science.   (interestingly a discussion over at www.science2.0  was just discussing (i think) how the NSF has canceled funding to social science types (poli sci, maybe econ, psychology, or something like that---the debate was picked up in 'major media' (post, la times...) so various types (psychologists, econs) were discussing the pros and cons.
 
however, i am really skeptical of this in general, because alot of it is common sense (confirmation bias, obediance to authority, groupthink...) so then glamorizing it and giving it big funding and big prestige (eg Steve Leavitt, freakonomics and that whole gendre of pop econ) , and titles like 'ecojustice' (stepping on toes here) , environmental psychology, behavioral economics, eviolutionary psychology actually looks just like an industry, with its marketing and so on functions.   ie a bit of a religion, priesthood, moral arbiters, ...
 
i dont know how much this stuff is worth.  of course, if one looks at math, a huge 'beurocracy' with accompanying formalism, theology, priesthood,  was built up (say stating with pythagorus or others) and finally one gets computers, etc.  So formalizing the obvuious rigorously can lead to counterintuitive developments (eg perimeter institute, fqxi. org or www.santafe.edu)  and those various contrived game theory experiments or more qualitative psych results may lead somewhere. (eg something like the standard of physics, except a 'lagrangian' describing how social space via symmetry breaking leads to the distribution of 'what matters' (and who matters) that is observed.
 
but there is alot of noise (inneficient use of resources) in that signal.  (dial 911 and ask for claude shannon).
 
issues like climate change are sortuh like tweaching kids 'mcdonald's and coke suck because they destoy people and the planet'.  'oh thats terrible.   5 minutues later---can we got to mcdonalds?"
 
on the other hand, the greater good likely knows that if we fund a whole lot more climate conferences, justice conferences... and journals, etc.  then we shall overcome the underdog oneday, i do be leave
 
 
From: Claudia Pine <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: Cons Psych: We’re All Climate-Change Idiots - NYTimes.com

Dear Phil -

Please give some reasons.  Phenomena like confirmation bias, as well as many other ways that cognition, emotions, language & experience trump empirical facts, and/or complex rationality (i.e., chains of inference) are pretty well known.  

I'd like to know what your (unreasoning) reaction is based on.

I do think that people's responses to environmental information are based on a complicated congeries of input, including not just cognitive but also emotional, experiential, embodied, cultural, linguistic, social, and other modes of processing.  As such, there's a lot to be untangled, and my own scientific background training tends to make me a little dubious of carefully-staged, one-variable "micro" level experiments.  Human - like environmental - phenomena tend more to be very "messy" and meso- or macro-scale in their unfolding.   

As one example that the article reminded me of, I noticed some years ago when using the film "An Inconvenient Truth" in a classroom of mainly middle-class, largely white, urban raised undergraduates, that empathy for the prospective extinction of all polar bears was a powerful persuasion for many.  OMG we can't kill the polar bears!  But in other materials, presenting the human-centered information on likely rises in respiratory illness, impairment and death from urban warming and particulates -- that got almost no response. Mainly because these kids don't come from backgrounds where painful lung diseases have any visibility, nor do they know grandparents or other older people with breathing impairments caused by smog or occupational exposures.  Some even said words to the effect that "oh well, you just have to work not to get things like that" -- as though it's a lifestyle choice.  For some of them, from well-off elite suburbs filled with healthy driven high-income parents, ill health probably *is* to some extent a choice, not a concomitant of the toxic byproducts of western industrial-consumerist life.

In short, Environmental Justice falls on deaf ears with those who have been carefully raised like young Gautama, to see no one sick or impaired or dying.  But appeals to soft-fuzzy-animals work, because they've seen them many times in the zoo, on Discover channel, and in media ads for the good life they expect to have, complete with globe-trotting wilderness vacations.

So my bottom line is that while research does show how many reasons go into "reasoning," a LOT of research is going to be needed, and not just little psych lab experiments, to find out what's really going on.  Just because our decisions aren't based solely on quantitative physics data, though, doesn't mean the research can't be 'science' - that is, systematic, falsifiable and objective.

... And really, comments like "looks like drivel" aren't science either.

Claudia


On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Phil Gasper <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Sorry, but this "research" looks like total drivel to me. --P.


On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Claudia Pine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Conservation psychology is a rapidly growing field that seeks answers to why we do -- or more often, don't -- conserve the many non-human parts of the planet, even when we all say we care about it.  One thing I like about the field is that it shows how only interdisciplinary work, combining "soft" as well as "hard" sciences, can lead to a clearer picture of why we don't make the "rational" decisions that scientific data seem to suggest.  So when conservation psychology, as in this short review below, shows why the climate change message communicates so poorly to all these "irrational" humans, it also provides a great case study of why society can be so resistant to scientific information, in general.

We can change our tools and technology -- and thus "Nature" -- a lot more easily than we can change human nature.  This may prove to be a very bad thing for the planet, and consequently for individual humans... but it seems like it would create a lot of business for tool-makers and technology. I guess that's great for another new-ish field, "geo-engineering," and other such applied-science folks. So long, that is, as they don't destroy us all trying out something even more damaging than the recent Industrial Revolution's bad products! (asbestos, nuclear weapons, toxic fuels and foods...) 

Frankly, I'd far rather see human nature start to change instead.  But is there any chance of that?  Is that even, evolutionarily speaking, a possibility? We might be stuck with who we are as a species, and about to ride the long slope downward into the mess we've caused through all our clever tinkering with the world.

Claudia
 

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/22/opinion/sunday/were-all-climate-change-idiots.html?src=un&feedurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjson8.nytimes.com%2Fpages%2Fopinion%2Findex.jsonp
July 21, 2012

We’re All Climate-Change Idiots

By BETH GARDINER
CLIMATE CHANGE is staring us in the face. The science is clear, and the need to reduce planet-warming emissions has grown urgent. So why, collectively, are we doing so little about it?
Yes, there are political and economic barriers, as well as some strong ideological opposition, to going green. But researchers in the burgeoning field of climate psychology have identified another obstacle, one rooted in the very ways our brains work. The mental habits that help us navigate the local, practical demands of day-to-day life, they say, make it difficult to engage with the more abstract, global dangers posed by climate change.
Robert Gifford, a psychologist at the University of Victoria in British Columbia who studies the behavioral barriers to combating climate change, calls these habits of mind “dragons of inaction.” We have trouble imagining a future drastically different from the present. We block out complex problems that lack simple solutions. We dislike delayed benefits and so are reluctant to sacrifice today for future gains. And we find it harder to confront problems that creep up on us than emergencies that hit quickly.
“You almost couldn’t design a problem that is a worse fit with our underlying psychology,” says Anthony Leiserowitz, director of the Yale Project on Climate Change Communication.
Sometimes, when forming our opinions, we grasp at whatever information presents itself, no matter how irrelevant. A new study by the psychologist Nicolas Guéguen, published in last month’s Journal of Environmental Psychology, found that participants seated in a room with a ficus tree lacking foliage were considerably more likely to say that global warming was real than were those in a room with a ficus tree that had foliage.
We also tend to pay attention to information that reinforces what we already believe and dismiss evidence that would require us to change our minds, a phenomenon known as confirmation bias. Dan M. Kahan, a Yale Law School professor who studies risk and science communication, says this is crucial to understanding the intense political polarization on climate change. He and his research colleagues have found that people with more hierarchical, individualistic worldviews (generally conservatives) sense that accepting climate science would lead to restraints on commerce, something they highly value, so they often dismiss evidence of the risk. Those with a more egalitarian, community-oriented mind-set (generally liberals) are likely to be suspicious of industry and very ready to credit the idea that it is harming the environment.
There are ways to overcome such prejudices. Professor Kahan has shown that how climate change solutions are framed can affect our views of the problem. In one study, not yet published, he and his colleagues asked people to assess a scientific paper reporting that the climate was changing faster than expected. Beforehand, one group was asked to read an article calling for tighter carbon caps (i.e., a regulatory solution); a second group read an article urging work on geoengineering, the manipulation of atmospheric conditions (i.e., a technological solution); and a control group read an unrelated story on traffic lights. All three groups included hierarchical individualists and egalitarian communitarians.
In all cases, the individualists were, as expected, less likely than the communitarians to say the scientific paper seemed valid. But the gap was 29 percent smaller among those who had first been exposed to the geoengineering idea than among those who had been prompted to think about regulating carbon, and 14 percent smaller than in the traffic light group. Thinking about climate change as a technological challenge rather than as a regulatory problem, it seems, made individualists more ready to credit the scientific claim about the climate.
Research also suggests public health is an effective frame: few people care passionately about polar bears, but if you argue that closing coal-burning plants will reduce problems like asthma, you’re more likely to find a receptive audience, says the American University communications professor Matthew Nisbet.
Smaller “nudges,” similarly sensitive to our psychological quirks, can also spur change. Taking advantage of our preference for immediate gratification, energy monitors that displayed consumption levels in real-time cut energy use by an average of 7 percent, according to a study in the journal Energy in 2010. Telling heavy energy users how much less power their neighbors consumed prompted them to cut their own use, according to a 2007 study in Psychological Science. And trading on our innate laziness, default settings have also conserved resources: when Rutgers University changed its printers’ settings to double-sided, it saved more than seven million sheets of paper in one semester in 2007.
Simply presenting climate science more clearly is unlikely to change attitudes. But a better understanding of our minds’ strange workings may help save us from ourselves.
Beth Gardiner is a freelance journalist.




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