Most of the nursing students, and I had also a dietitian are taking
online classes with very limited support from their schools. Since they
work with us and serve our patients I don't see any reason to refer them
to their schools.

Vislava T. Tylman, MLS
Goldblatt Medical Library 
Cleveland Clinic Florida

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On Behalf Of Susan Shelly
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 5:02 PM
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Subject: Re: Positive indication - learning to fish?

I, too, assist nurse-employee students in their literature searches,
obtain articles for them, and do 1:1 tutorials.  I consider it a great
step to building a relationship with individuals and departments, and (I
hope!) improving some aspect of patient care. 

That said, I also emphasize that they should first go to their school
library and librarian for help. I think schools have a moral and ethical
first-line obligation to support these students.  After all, the
students are paying Big Bucks for their education and library services.
Student-employees at for-profit schools tell me they do not have the
kind of library services they need to be able to use databases, search,
and obtain resources.  I wonder if some of these schools feel they can
"dump" these educational responsibilities on hospital librarians.
Frustrating; but the joy is, I get to work with highly motivated nurses!

Sue Shelly 
Librarian, John C. Lincoln Health Network
Phoenix, AZ

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Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 2:03 PM
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Subject: Re: Positive indication - learning to fish?

I certainly agree that tutorials in searching should be offered to those
who are interested in learning basic as well as more advanced
techniques.  And if you are part of an academic health center, teaching
search skills is part of the job description, I'd suppose. But in a
community hospital or other stand-alone or smaller institute, I consider
our library to be the same as any other special library, and I'm there
to help my patrons find the information they need in order to do their
job better and more efficiently.  
I wouldn't have expected my users to do their own research when I was a
pharmaceutical librarian in a J&J subsidiary (although of course some
did), and I don't expect my physician and hospital staff to do their own
research either (although again, many are adept and prefer to do their
own when they have the time.)
Ardis Weiss
San Antonio Community Hospital


From: Medical Libraries Discussion List on behalf of Deane, Paul
Sent: Thu 2/7/2013 9:10 AM
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Subject: Re: Positive indication - learning to fish?

(:) Just wondering.

Would we expect our physician or accountant or minister to teach us to

Paul Deane
Alexian Brothers Medical Library
800 Biesterfield Rd.
Elk Grove Village, IL 60007
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I think this goes to the old adage of teaching a person to fish rather
than handing that fish over and sating their hunger for one day rather
than giving them the tools that last a lifetime. I would much rather
provide the tools and help the student hone them.

Just my two cents' worth.

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